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How Is The Current Rece$$ion Effecting The Way You Buy Coins

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Poll Question
Sad times yes indeed! Tell us all how your coping with these tough times as we all have to make some changes to our collecting habit. Below you will find a series of answers that best suits most of us. See which one is as close to the situation your in!
>REMEMBER: all answers are anonymous, so be truthful and we'll all be aware of how our Hobby is being affected!

Glenn Pinto

Poll Choices
 >I'm cutting back buying coins 20%.
 >I'm cutting back buying coins 40%.
 >I'm cutting back buying coins 60%.
 >I'm cutting back buying coins 80%.
 >I've put my coin collecting on hold for now.
 >I've sold off my whole collection to raise money.
 >I've sold off a portion of my collection to raise money.
 >I've stopped buying high end coins for a while.
 >I've switched to a less expensive hobby.
 >I've cashed out my R.R.S.P.'s to purchase coins.
 >I've sold off personal items to purchase coins.
 >I've had to borrow money from family/friends to purchase coins.
 >I've cut back spending on other things to purchase coins.
 >I'm making purchases as if no Recession exists.
 >I'm trading coins with friends instead of purchasing to save money.

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05/14/2009 06:57 am
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 Posted 03/04/2009  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say the last two choices are closest to what I am doing and voted as if there was no recession. I hardly ever spend money on stuff that I can't resell except gas and food and my bills are getting paid. I only waste money on fishing trips but it's worth it to me.
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 Posted 03/04/2009  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You didn't have an option for "I'm buying more coins because of the recession." And here's why:

Quality numismatic coins have been holding their value better than virtually anything else (pure bullion is subject to the 'paper' market futures' effect on spot prices). I bought an American Buffalo Gold Proof Set in Nov. 2008. They've about doubled in (numismatic) value since I bought them. Name anything else that's doubled in value since November 2008 (if you can!).

Even quality numismatic coins that have lost some value look like 'bargains' because they still haven't lost anywhere near the value percentage that the Dow has (so they will 'recover' their value much quicker than the Dow).

I can't be the only one out there who's thinking that high-end coins are a far better place to put your money than any stocks, at least until 2010 (I would say at least 2012!). Yes, there are a few companies out there that I consider 'undervalued' and they would be good buys, if the market as a whole 'hole' wasn't dragging them all down with it...

I've been cutting back on other expenditures to buy more coins.
("No, I won't buy a new pair of pants, I could get a nice Morgan dollar for that money instead, oh and could you sew up my inside pocket, honey?" )

And I've started to get into some coin trading. This forum is a perfect place to do it!
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"You didn't have an option for "I'm buying more coins because of the recession.""

I agree. Now is a good time to be buying coins as a protection against severe inflation that will come. The West is in a financial mess that can only be corrected when all these trade deficits end. As a stop gap measure, to keep the system going, trillions of dollars will be added within the next few years. But little of that money will result in repatriating manufacturing to those countries running deficits. So expect to see much in the way of inflation in the future. Gold bullion should do particularly well.
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 Posted 03/04/2009  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've been looking at higher end coins and bullion. I've always been frugal and in the last few years, more careful with my finances, so the recession isn't affecting my lifestyle very much at all. I agree that buying better quality coins is the way to go. Also, the majority of my collection comes from hunting coin rolls so I'm only paying face value for them.
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I have cut back, not because of the recession. I cut back since the mint eliminated many of the products I used to collect. I used to be a Proof and Burnished Platinum Eagle collector.
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 Posted 03/04/2009  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jayceeg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
buying more than ever have. but my interest has peaked with joining a coin club and finding this forum. mostly buying silver because I can't afford gold
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DNA - I am with you. Increased my buying. Better than stocks, Bonds or cash.
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I voted that I cut back 80%. I'm only buying the good stuff, and foregoing my usual weekly purchases of cheaper coins. Quality, higher end coins will hold their value, but as we are already seeing, lower end items are dropping off in demand and value.
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 Posted 03/05/2009  07:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augsburger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm richer than ever, recession, what recession? Okay, I have basically bummed around the world the last 10 years and kind of now have a job that actually pays enough money to live off, unfortunatly, there is one coin fair a year in the region I am in, and I missed it because I couldn't find out about it, so I have bought zero coins in the last 2 years. But, but, but there is a fair (i hope) closish by and I plan on buying about 40 coins.
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 Posted 03/05/2009  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've cut back, but not because of the recession. I started a new job in January (yes, at better pay AND better hours), and it's cut into what little free time I used to have. The good news is I get the summer off.
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As I am new to collecting my vote was 'trade with friends' a bit to do with the recession but also to educate myself on all the terms and learning the value of coins
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Trust me!The coin crunch is coming.I predicted this recession 2 years ago and they thought I was crazy!!Coins will follow the market corrections to come.
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 Posted 03/06/2009  02:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Trust me!The coin crunch is coming. I predicted this recession 2 years ago..."

What's coming is different than a recession. Major banks everywhere are insolvent or have gone bust. A few countries are on the verge of going bankrupt as well. As a result, financial instability around the world has inspired many to buy bullion as financial insurance. This will likely spill over into non bullion coins at some point if it hasn't already. High inflation can be expected in the future as all the Government stimulus programs around the world work their way into the system. This should result in coins moving up in price - at least in part due to inflation.

A few weeks ago while I was at a dealer's shop, virtually everyone who came in was looking to buy bullion, but the dealer had little to offer. As a result, some looked at lower cost TPG coins and other collectable coins. This may not be the situation in Canada at this time, but it is in the US and other parts of the world.
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Name anything else that's doubled in value since November 2008 (if you can


The 2008 Burnished ASE "W" Mint.
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Here is an interesting article from the Telegraph in the UK:


How to buy gold bars

Now that the Bank of England has decided to start printing money, investors worried that inflation will result are thinking of turning to gold, a traditional store of value in troubled times.

By Richard Evans
Last Updated: 3:48PM GMT 06 Mar 2009

"We did have people phoning up to inquire about buying gold after hearing the news about printing money," said a spokeswoman for Baird & Co , the bullion dealer. "Some said they planned to buy a bar or two as a result."

Buying gold bars - in small quantities at least - is no different from buying a packet of sweets, say. Anyone can walk into Baird's shop in the City, hand over some cash and take away their gold.

"The most popular small bar is probably the 1 ounce," said the spokeswoman. This currently costs £718.25. But if you don't want to spend that much, smaller bars are available: the company's smallest, the 2.5 gram, costs £64.25.

Gold is heavy, so the bars are small for their weight; a 1kg bar worth £22,182 measures 5 inches by 3.5 and is about a quarter of an inch thick. "They are not big but they are heavy," she said.

The biggest, meanwhile, weighs in at 12.5kg and costs £222,000. "People do come in occasionally and buy five of them in one go," said the spokeswoman, although customers buying such large amounts would have phoned first. That 50kg in gold would be worth £1.1m.

There are formalities to go through if you are placing a large order. "We need a passport and two utility bills if you are buying more than £5,000 worth of gold," said Baird.

Ninety per cent of its small retail business is done by post or internet, with gold being shipped by courier after funds have cleared. Alternatively, the company can store your gold, for a fee, for holdings worth £5,000 or more.

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