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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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I would appreciate your grading estimates for this 1786 'Vermontensium' variety landscape copper, variety RR-8. Grading is made difficult by the fact planchet quality is often low for this variety: (text describing this variety form a Stacks&Bowers auction of an RR-8 example): "RR-8 is the scarcest of the 1786-dated Landscape varieties in the Vermont copper series. As Carlotto (1993) states: "Planchet quality seems to the worst of the year also. Laminated planchets are more prevalent in this variety than [for the] two others of this type." I am curious to see what your grading estimates are. Thanks!   |
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Valued Member
United States
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I have seen XF 40 that looks pretty close to your coin. So I would say at least fine and better to XF.
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Pillar of the Community
 Germany
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SaturnD51, thank you very much for your comment.
That is quite a spread in grading (Fine to XF). That is also the problem that I have grading Colonial coppers, particularly those with low planchet quality such as these.
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Moderator
 United States
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I have zero knowledge of these - but do appreciate the coin.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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Nobody knows how to grade Vermont Landscape Coppers, he?  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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i certainly dont.
i thought I posted in this thread earlier but I guess I didnt hit enter before closing the window.
this coin looks around low VF to me in terms of overall wear. I guess ill call it a 20.
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Valued Member
United States
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Clean & mark free with great color, that's XF+ all day long in my book. My 2c
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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@ GERMANICVS: This coin was only in 1785 and 1786. IMHO is one of the most scarce coin of Vermont among the 12 different Dies Designs use..
The coin show a big circulation which erase many details of the design. What grade? Those coins if you go the assign by the Stanton scale of the pre or modern coins do not fit. Those coins must be graded in relations with other coins discovered. Then you can assign a really grade.
I like your 1 digit from the date Doubling. For me it is a decent coin which show at least half of the original design, so if I look for this I will say it is around 50 of the grade of those coins.
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01/17/2023 7:00 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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I live about 40 miles from the Bennington Museum in which they have the only complete set of Vermont coppers known to exist. It consist of 35 or 40 different die variations/types. I was there last fall on other business so I couldn't spend nearly enough time drooling on that exhibit. They are mostly uncirculated. I will be going again soon a plan on taking some detailed pictures.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I agree with Alpha33 on varieties, but it is say that 12 major Dies designs was done. In march I will be there so I we be able to learn more.
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United States
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I will be going again soon a plan on taking some detailed pictures. @alpha, please post those pics on our numismatic museum exhibit thread. Thx! Here is a link: http://goccf.com/t/301900"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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@ SPENCE After March I will post what I will have from museum also.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm going to give it a F-15. I think it straight grades. A beautiful honest example!
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United States
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