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"1909-S" Indian Head Cent? Two Mintmarks? Admins Say That It's Genuine.

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Hello Everyone! I saw this on a social network private coin auction site, and I had my doubts...there are two "S" mintmarks on the reverse, and neither resembles the S on a genuine example. Admin replied that he had two Experts authenticate it as genuine from the pictures...


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 Posted 01/15/2023  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does this admin have a name? Otherwise, I see no value in such an opinion.
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The S mintmark is not genuine. The second S to the right is probably just Pareidolia.
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Sounds like the website is likely a scam.
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 Posted 01/15/2023  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can we see a closeup of the MM?
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Thank goodness the admins are the end all be all folks.

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I don't collect IHC, but I could tell that mint mark is out of sync from many I seen so far.
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 Posted 01/15/2023  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Onedollarbillnut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Absolutely 100% counterfeit
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Fake the real S mintmark has a certain look to it aka the font or logotype, the middle of the S is thicker, the one in the OP photo is all wrong looking. Here is a good video that looks like the same coin.

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I guess that the point I'm trying to make here, is that you really have to watch out for yourself. People are currently bidding on this, and others of its ilk. I was told by an Admin to whom I protested the posting, that it was a Free Country, and buyers could be (you can guess the word he used). The Admins leave it up to sellers to ameliorate any problems with their sales-especially genuine or not. Thing is, though, that every post must be first approved by an Admin person. If you pay for your item(s) as a Friend of the Family (feeless), you have no protection.
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The S is so clearly garbage that if somebody wants to scam and be scammed in some anonymous bubble world where the "admin" rules, I'm not sure that I care. Can I pay in coinbit?
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Anyone trying to help folks bidding on this, or just letting it go due to the admin being an idiot?
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 Posted 01/16/2023  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldgrouchyguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't post a link (it is on "that" Social Media site); but if allowed I would post the site Title

brufle23: The Admin I talked with said, basically, Caveat Emptor. They also do not "like" people commenting negatively on coins offered for sale. I did send a PM to one person who was bidding on an obvious fake coin, and was accused of wanting the coin for myself...
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They also do not "like" people commenting negatively on coins offered for sale.
Red flag! Run away!

This policy is only going to bring more crooks to that market. Shame on you "admin."
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