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 Posted 02/12/2023  09:19 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add KerryKz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I can't find any info on this. But it looks like a rpd maybe..? the pluribus unum letters are also messed up but thinking PMD
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Getting creative on this one.
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 Posted 02/12/2023  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An RPD on a 1940 nickel?
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 Posted 02/12/2023  09:43 am  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just a worn out die and circulation damage. Might be some die chips too, can't really tell though.
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 Posted 02/12/2023  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@for sure there is some circulation wear. Can you please post the weight and a closeup on PLURIBUS? Thx.
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 Posted 02/12/2023  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not seeing anything special here.
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 Posted 02/12/2023  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can't be a repunched date, the dates are part of the master die.
Your right about the rest though, it is PMD.
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 Posted 02/12/2023  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
never heard of an RPD before, the date is not punched like the mintmark, maybe an overdate. but that is not what you have here, just a well circulated nickel.
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Here ya go, Dearborn but not on modern coinage.

LINK https://doubleddie.com/2443837.html
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I, too, see nothing unexpected for a circulated 1940 nickel
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Edited to include the weight
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I knew what I meant. Overdate. Just don't quite have all the terminology. And it still looks just like a 9 over the 0 on that to me
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Ok yes looks like pluribus just took a hit too. I wanted to make sure you didn't have a Henninger nickel with a new date there.
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Overdate stopped in 1908. All the devices on the coin's design is now on the whole die. The only way for devices to had two different dates is if it were hubbed with hubs from two different years. (Very rarely that this happens. Just a very few years) Mintmark were added to dies up 1989, then in 1990 forward the mintmarks are part of the design, no longer added as a separate step. The devices on your coin were flatten from circulation damage or vending machine damage. Not a mint error. Post strike errors. (Coin events that alter the coin) The marks on the fields are from die wear. They are called flow lines. What a flow line? When a coin is struck the planchet is smaller than the finished coin. To the metal is flattened/shaped/formed during the strike in one pressing. The dies form the coin, the collar contains the outside edge of the coin, the gutters form the rims. All done in less than a second. When this happens hundreds of thousands of times, the die start to show die wear/distortion and the coins keep a running record of the dies wear pattern as the dies age. These flow lines are often polished off the die, and this polishing alters the devices on the die. Thus because of doing the same thing up to a million times, the dies age. Thus that is what is causing what you are seeing between the devices on the fields. These are just die events. Not a premium for them as 54% can look like your coin on all the coins. So it is a common die event. A doubled die is a variety that is seen on the first coin forwards. Your coin was struck with a normal die that was aging. (Eventually the dies are retired and defaced and scrapped/or sold)
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On the last image, the lines on the left side of the device are actually part of a doubled die that was noticed on that years coins.

CoopHome:What are die flow lines? these are part of the normal die wear pattern of dies as they age. not a collectable, but are noticed, sometimes polished (face lift) and continued to be used until they are retired.
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Excellent synopsis Coop!
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