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Hi I will post on this coin three time with different issues. I will start with those two: EXTRA LEAF on Left side? Normally according by Right side was suppose to be an D2 (16 berry) Do this is consider extra Berry? RIM Cud? I put the photo and also the side of the coin. First I think it is an hit, but the grains of the metal show not. The next will be the Die cracks O and R after I will check the listing.   Edited by silviosi
03/21/2023 6:07 pm
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@sil, I hear what you are saying about the metal grains, but that really looks like a rim bruise to me—especially with the metal pushed up and deformed next to the denticles.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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Make sense. An hit who push the material inside and due to a small fracture of the material dislocated. Is funny, I have to note in my book that this could happened.
But the extra "berry" ? also the leaf seem not to be same with others.
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In the circle it is like another berry on left so if I account will be 11 on left.
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You are not listening, Sil. The extra berry, which is a "17" berry, not a 16 berry, is on the right upper wreath. I showed you both links. Here is a pic of a random 1921P, I have circled what you are talking about, it's in the normal design. Help me, help you.   -makecents-
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Yours is a 16 berry and as Spence has already stated, with damage.
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Make, the 17th berry is suppose to be on the right side. 10 on left and 7 or 6 on the right side as we look the coin. This coin with what I encircle made 11berry on the left and 6 on the right. The VAM I will attribute later after I finish with 1921-D (only 11 coins) and first was VAM 1B1 VEDS |
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I've given you all the info, that is all I can do.
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The pic I supplied, just above, was a random pic, not yours. What you are seeing is in the design of the coin.
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Ah OK. What it is funny is I find on very few coins. I past 460 Morgan's 1921-P and only 3 as this one and all with same cracks O and R
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Now you're making me question myself. I'll look a a few more.
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Hope you have some (1000 or 2000 pieces) I still have to look other 700 but different years.
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Alright, Sil. I looked at several different examples and though it is not uncommon, it's not part of the design but would appear to be a weak spot in the design. What you have, is not a berry but a break. Just a small die chip at the tip of the leaf. I have found a few and you can usually see a small crack that follows the upper part of the leaf to the end and then varying sizes of die chips, that do kind of resemble a berry.
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@silviosi....The easiest way for me to tell the 17 berry D1 reverse is the top arrow feather continues all the way to the Talon, which on the D1 reverse, the Talon continues below the branch. On the 16 berry the Talon stops flush at the edge and the arrow feather stops quite aways prior. The extra berry is not always very clear in my opinion. Also the top arrow point will have scribbles.   |
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The easiest way for me to tell the 17 berry D1 reverse is the top arrow feather continues all the way to the Talon, which on the D1 reverse, the Talon continues below the branch.  "Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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