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 Posted 04/16/2023  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the eye candy keeps on coming!


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Great job on creating the 2015 LESP fantasy set!

Agreed! Very cool.
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 Posted 04/16/2023  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Check Gilly's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Gilly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In a way it's a lot like Daniel Carr/ moonlight mint making 2009 proof ASEs when they never existed, although that is a lot more involved, doing overstrikes. But in a way, for an OGP collector, is similar. Creating what never existed.
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 Posted 04/19/2023  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Check Gilly's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Gilly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's been a number of days since I've added to this. Just busy in general and hard to get back to it. But have most of my off-day catchup work done around the house and now a thunderstorm, so seemed like a good time to get another year done. It won't be long and I'll be out of the articles I had been doing, so I'll need to get the last 5 years or so done, from scratch. Maybe the pics will be better but don't count on it. Well without further adieu:

So this will be an unusually busy year of 2016.
The Mint came up with the idea of having the smooth edge with incused lettering reading "30TH ANNIVERSARY". This was only done on the proof and Uncirculated finish ASEs. The bullion coin did not have this. The 2 letters edge coins were both West Point mint produced. The COA are all carry over except the "30th Anniversary" inscription. Sales codes finally went to the system we see today with the 2 numbers for the year and 2 letters for the type of coin or set. So the W proof is 16EA, and the Uncirculated W is 16EG.
Before moving on, I would like to say that there was no 30th anniversary set. You will see the graders for some reason stating "30th anniversary" on the label, which is true, they were minted in the 30th anniversary year, but there was no set. People put sets together using a proof and uncirculated 2016, typically placed on an empty 2012 or 2013 2 coin set box, but you never see a COA for a 30th set because there wasn't one. If you are lucky they give you the 2 individual COAs, but if they mint had done it, there would have been a single COA for the set.
Next is the 2016 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set, back after a 1 year absence.
The entire OGP was changed a lot from the 2014 set. As I mentioned last week, the coins were now all individual encapsulated. I have side by side pictures for comparison. The COA is similar but not identical. There was much less year branding on the COA as you'll notice, a little more generic, but it's nice quality as before. The pictures tell the story pretty well and the new type sales code was 16RC.
Next up the last edition of the Annual Uncirculated Dollar Coin Set.
To put it simply they ran out of dead presidents. No more Presidential dollars so the set could no longer be done.
This set is Nixon, Ford, and Reagan, plus if course the Sacagawea and the Uncirculated ASE. Really great it ended the same year as the lettered edge, it makes all these sets in 2016 that much more special. And again it does have the modern set designation if 16RB. Note the difference in the coin layout add the other sets had one more Presidential dollar. I should get a picture and add it.
The Congratulations set again is a carry over, but again it has the lettered edge ASE. Price really isn't that bad on these sets and I still consider it a special set. Sales code is now 16RF.
Last set is pretty unique, the 2016 Ronald Reagan Coin and Chronicles set. From my quick research they made 10 Coin and Chronicles sets, starting in 2005, and I think this one was the last. The list I see is Chief Justice John Marshall, Ben Franklin, A. Lincoln, T. Roosevelt, FD Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, JF Kennedy, LB Johnson, and then the Reagan set.
The prior sets, without deeper research, seemed to include a silver presidential coin and postage stamps. Some included a bronze medal and/or other coins.
The Reagan set has a reverse proof Reagan Presidential dollar and a bronze Ron and Nancy Reagan medal, and an ASE taking the place of a silver medal, sure to Reagan being in charge when the enactment was made creating the Liberty Coin Act.
Really nice OGP, I can't remember who I was talking to about the paper of the OGP have a soft touch coating, sort of a velvet feel to it, very unique. Even though it is a one-off unique thing, it does have a new type sales code of 16PA.
Well I'll cut it off here and see what else I can thing of, but this is the bulk of it.
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Very nice!

I have the 2016 Reagan C&C set in my collection.
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As do I. It's a great set, although I've never been a fan of Reagan's portrait on his dollar coin.
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 Posted 04/23/2023  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Check Gilly's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Gilly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I never did my little facts and figures for 2016, here it goes.

The bullion was produced at all 3 mints. West Point produced the bulk of them, almost 32 million. San Fransisco minted about 4.5 Million and Philly a little over a million, so that's a rare one. Total was about 37.7 Million.

The 2016 Proof was $53.95 when issued by the Mint.
The Uncirculated was $44.95
The last Annual Uncirculated Dollar Set was a good value at $49.95, they only made 19,818 of those.
The reintroduced Limited Edition Silver Proof set cost $139.95 and they made 49,647 sets.
The Congratulations Set cost $54.95 and get this, they only made 5,966 sets. Very rare but not the priciest Congrats set for some reason.
The Ronald Reagan Coin and Chronicles Set cost $68.95 and they made 47,447 sets.
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I await Your Addition of the Newest American Silver Eagle, The 2023 Uncirculated Mint Marked Collector's Version, Too........

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Back in 2017, I posted about a custom 2016 ASE Set I assembled in re-purposed OGP. I thought some might be interested:

- New Use For Previous Mint Silver Eagle OGP




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When I was still pretty new to ASE collecting, I did bite on one of these on ebay. They never did mention it wasn't an actual mint set from 2016, I learned as I went along. I later bought the individual issued coins with OGP. Then even later I bought the empty OGP with COA for the 2 coins and resold them.
There are still people insisting they are real.
2 dead giveaways. No outer sleeve for the box, and no COA. Sometimes you see them for sale with the 2 COAs for each coin. But you know the mint wouldn't do that. There would be a COA for the set
Yes I should get back on doing this. With spring here there's so much else to do.
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Yes I should get back on doing this. With spring here there's so much else to do.

get back to what? creating your own Gov't OGP sets for re-sale?
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@Gilly: I'm sorry that you purchased a third-party-assembled set of 2016 ASEs while under the impression that it was an official US Mint product and can understand your stated frustration. That said, however, I don't think there was anything wrong with me using previous OGP to create my own custom 2016 set. I was not creating "fakes" to sell or perpetrate any type of fraud - I was simply, for my own collection, filling a gap left by what was, IMO, a missed opportunity by the Mint. I believe the purpose it serves in my collection is every bit as legfitimate as any US Mint product offering.


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Sometimes you see them for sale with the 2 COAs for each coin. But you know the mint wouldn't do that. There would be a COA for the set

This is not always the case. I have more than one set produced by the US Mint that has individual COAs for each included coin vs. one for the set.


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get back to what? creating your own Gov't OGP sets for re-sale?

No, I never did do that. I have my fantasy 2015 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set, I did that for myself, not resale. The "getting back" comment was about continuing posting about my collection.

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