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1973 Proof Lincoln "No S"?

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 Posted 04/01/2023  3:03 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Igor22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I've never known there to be any 1973 Proof LMC "No S".

Isn't this a regular Philadelphia Minted LMC and the seller is trying to pass it off as a "No S" Proof coin?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/285206852464


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 Posted 04/01/2023  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do you have one of these cents, or are your just showing what info you found?

These photos don't look like proof coins. Stick to info here for best results.
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 Posted 04/01/2023  3:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Normal business strike.
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 Posted 04/01/2023  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Igor22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Was asking the opinion of this supposed "No S" Proof LMC seen in a listing and also provided a screenshot of the many other supposed "Error" coins from the same seller.

But to answer your question......Yes, I do have many of these " no mint mark" 1973 Lincoln Cent coins. But I don't claim they are "No S" Proof coins.
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All the coins shown from that seller's site are worth one-to-two cents each, aside from the 2002 proof which should sell for $1 to $5.

All the rest are just common basic cents.
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I agree with all above. So many photos, but the ones at the top are business strike as best I can tell.
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with atticguy every listing. You can advertise on ebay whatever you want. That's not saying it's true. Just a seller to stay away from.
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Those auctions are either deliberate sucker bait or someone who knows nothing about coins. I hope no one falls for any of them. So sad!
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Why are these very blatant claims allowed to be on ebay?

If someone made such false claims of any other item(s), they would be removed very quickly.

I understand it is the buyers duty to know what they are buying, but how is trying to pass off a Philadelphia minted LMC as a No S Proof any different than someone offering a fake Chinese LV Purse as genuine?

Since we are mostly seasoned coin collectors here in this forum, how would any of you feel if your Grandparents, Parents, Children, or Friend was to buy one of the "Error" coins from this buyer as a gift for you? One of your loved ones knows you enjoy coin collecting, and despite having very little knowledge of Numismatics decided to purchase a "Rare Error" coin for your collection...spending easily 1000 times over the actual value for a coin you will very likely not be adding to your collection.

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The best we can do is keep out eye open and report each one as we see it to ebay. With all the listings that are added everyday, I'm sure it is a nightmare to certify each and every new listing.
So the best thing to do is report it here, with the listing web address so we all can go visit and click on that little, "report this listing" link and bring it to ebay's attention that way.
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Igor how noble of you to volunteer for this job.

Please start a new thread in a month and let us know how this works out for you.
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 Posted 04/02/2023  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Igor22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Igor how noble of you to volunteer for this job.


That is an easy attitude to have until it happens to someone you know or one of your Family Members. Sort of like ignoring or thinking a drug or alcohol problem will just go away on its own. Or believing "that type of thing happens to other people", until it strikes close to home.

Sellers like that is what turns off new collectors to the hobby and is a huge disservice to the Numismatics hobby in a whole.

Ask any Coin Shop Owner or Employee about how many weekly customers enter the shop holding coins and have a misconception of their coins value due to seeing the misleading listings, or have purchased from a seller like this..... depending on the size of shop, very likely a few to 100s weekly.

Back as early as the 90s or early 2000s, Coin Shop customers would enter the Shop asking for the value of a coin(s), now since the internet is so widely used as a vehicle of Numismatics scams, many of the customers enter the shop telling the Owner/Employees the value, and will argue....despite having very little knowledge or have done zero research except for ebay listings.
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Buyer Beware!! Especially on ebay!!
I've learned that lesson the hard way. Ignorance is no excuse.
That's why I joined this Coin Community! To know better, next time.
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Was looking on "the bay" for DMPL listings of a certain coin (can't remember which year/denom). I was amazed to find that all the listings had the term DMPL in their description, but NONE of the graded coins indicated DMPL... or even PL on the slab! Beware the bay!
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The 2002-S cent looks like a fingerprint on it. So it is no where near that value.
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