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Is The Jefferson Nickel Going To Be Discontinued Any Time Soon?

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Just curious if the Jefferson nickel will likely be discontinued any time soon. It's approaching 90 years old and Jefferson was a slave owner which I think makes the nickel ready for design change. What do you think?
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Its coming...at least for one year. The Circulating Collectible Coin Redesign Act of 2020 was signed by President Donald Trump on January 13, 2021. It provides for, among other things, special one-year designs for the circulating coinage in 2026, including even the dime, for the United States Semiquincentennial (the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence). This section of the legislation allows the Treasury to redesign, for the year 2026, every other circulating U.S. coin—the Lincoln Cent, the Jefferson five-cent nickel, the Roosevelt dime, and the Kennedy half dollar.

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Washington owned them too, from age 11.
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Don't get me wrong. I like the Jefferson nickel. It was a different world world then which still does not justify mistreating people. I just think it's on borrowed time given it's age and society today. Washington was our first President and while Jefferson was important I don't think he attains the importance of Washington, Roosevelt or Lincoln. I'm not sure who I would replace him with though.
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Very interesting topic for conversation!!!! Good info has been posted. That's why I love these boards!!! Thanks for posting this P
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IMO none of the current circulating coinage is going to last forever.

One the USA gets beyond our sesquicentennial celebration in 2026 I would not be surprised to see a few design changes that become the new permanent coinage.
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IMO none of the current circulating coinage is going to last forever.

One the USA gets beyond our sesquicentennial celebration in 2026 I would not be surprised to see a few design changes that become the new permanent coinage.


Yes, as part of that legislation it also authorizes the redesigns of the circulating quarter dollar, half dollar, and $1 coins to be issued between 2022 and 2030 - a summary here for example.
https://crsreports.congress.gov/pro...f/IF/IF11773
https://www.usmint.gov/news/inside-...redesign-act
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I am all in for discontinuing the nickel and the cent from circulation (being selfish, I would like to see them remain in the annual sets for collecting). Inflation has rendered them meaningless. But you all knew that already.
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None of our current circulating coins will ever be completely redesigned. Reason is, nobody in Congress wants to be remembered for taking Jefferson off the nickel, Lincoln off the penny, etc.
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nobody in Congress wants to be remembered for taking Jefferson off the nickel
I don't think very many of them are worried about that.

Eliminating a coin isn't taking them off, so that would be easier for those that are worried about that.
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wait, what?

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Washington owned them too, from age 11.

What a bad boy he was, this AND cutting down that poor cherry tree!
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In 2022 pennies cost 2.72 cents to make and nickels cost 10.41 to make. Well I personally do not think they are going to keep losing money. They are not in this business. Sooner or later they will have to make a decision.
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Well I personally do not think they are going to keep losing money. They are not in this business.

No, they are not, that is why they (the mint) have us to buy their coins and sets and medals from their 'store'

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Sooner or later they will have to make a decision.

They already did - they raised the prices that we pay for the items they sell.
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In 2022 pennies cost 2.72 cents to make and nickels cost 10.41 to make. Well I personally do not think they are going to keep losing money. They are not in this business. Sooner or later they will have to make a decision.


Interesting, last I checked into it that I posted on the forum was with these 2020 numbers along with info regarding the composition changes and an interview with Ventris Gibson on the info you may find interesting.

The Fiscal Year 2020 costs were 1.76 cents for the Lincoln Cent which is actually less than in 2018 at 2.06 cents for the cent.

Heres what I could find. The Mint's current research has resulted in discovery of a number of potentially seamless alloys that could be used instead of whats used now for several coins (substitutions that would require little or no modification to coin-accepting equipment) but they offer only incremental material savings, and several other "co-circulating" alternatives that could enter circulation with existing coinage.

While these potential alternatives that are likely to happen through legislation could lower costs for the cent, none is identified that would bring overall costs below face value. The U.S. Mint conducted more-focused research into five potential compositions, including one for the cent. U.S. Mint researchers identified a copper-plated steel cent as an alternative to the copper-plated zinc cent. The option would be seamless, with the same dimensions and weight as the current cent, but a different electromagnetic signature. One of the remaining four actually is fully ready for implementation pending congressional authority (for the 5-cent, dime, quarter dollar and half dollar compositions) so those may change first.
https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-c...nal-approval

And I just found confirmation from an interview with Mint Director Ventris Gibson on this information:

Ventris: Well, everyone talks about the Lincoln Cent or the penny, as we affectionately know it as. Right now, there is no discussion about what happens to the penny. There's no interest Congressionally about that at this time. As to me and as to the Department of Treasury, the penny is our currency. You would be amazed that dependency penny actually fills the gap when other coins are not available. And when you think about circulating coins and the value of coinage, especially for the Lincoln Cent, it is so important to recognize that those who are unbanked or underbanked, we have vending communities, we have so many others that utilize coin as a method of survival. And thus, at this time, there is no thought to doing anything other than producing the penny as we have come to know it. There's no appetite for me to introduce legislation to do anything different with any of the elimination of the coins or reduction in it.

Robert: However, we are looking at different metals.

Ventris: Alternative metals.

Robert: Alternative metals that will reduce the cost. So, that is in the picture. We have a coin studies group inside the Mint, that analyzes all of that data.

Ventris: That's right.

....Ventris: But the Secretary of the Treasury has legislative authority to do research and development on alternative metals. And that's what we've been doing within the Mint, looking at that, and looking at other mints and whether what they've done is relevant to changes in some of the makeup of the raw materials for circulating coins. We continue to look at that, and what would be best to replace that penny with but the broader range of the alternative metals is not just about the penny, but about all of the circulating coins, what we can do different. The difference that we must always be mindful of is our coinage lasts for many, many years. A penny, what, 50 years ago, still looks like a penny, and feels like a penny. So, anything we do, we want to continue that legacy, that it will last.

https://coinweek.com/us-mint-news/m...-roundtable/
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It's clear from that discussion that the 1 cent coin is here to stay for a while. So you Americans should just learn to love it, or go cashless.
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