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1980-D Penny Date & Mintmark- Help?

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This penny caught my eye mainly because of the misshapen "0" in 1980 and "D" mintmark which looks thicker on one side.
I also found several other things while looking closer. I'm relatively new in the error-coin game, so be please be patient with me :)
-Other numbers in the date have lines/indentations thru them (obvious in the 8 but I can also see marks in the 9). The bottom part of the 9 almost disappears at certain angles too. I made sure to include a pic showing this.
-"Liberty", specifically the I, B, and E? Unsure if there's Machine Doubling (I don't think it's double die), or is the irregularity caused by some other type of die issue?
-Noticed a line above the date stretching across Lincoln's collar? It is only visible at certain angles. Is this just a scratch, or possible die crack?
Would love to hear everyone's opinions on if what I've pointed out would be considered a true error, or if one/all things can be attributed more to damage or wear. Also added pics of reverse if needed.
If anyone notices something else, I would appreciate any knowledge too!
Regardless, thought it was a neat looking coin.


1980-D-Penny-Date-&-Mintmark--Help?
1980-D-Penny-Date-&-Mintmark--Help?
1980-D-Penny-Date-&-Mintmark--Help?
1980-D-Penny-Date-&-Mintmark--Help?
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 Posted 04/07/2023  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see anything that can't be attributed to damage. PMD
Remember, damage is not an error.
An error can only occur during the striking of the coin.
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 Posted 04/07/2023  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm seeing a good mix of post-strike damage--dings/hits/rubs/flattening.
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Understood, thank you JimmyD!
I know damage on coins is common and regularly mistaken as an "error".
I wasn't aware PMD could effect numbers/letters like this one! Thought maybe the indentation line on the "8" could be a sort of strike through from a string or thread or something, but I'll be sure to keep damage in mind next time.
The irregularity of some letters in "Liberty" are from damage as well?
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All I see is circulation damage.



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Most odd looking things on coins are just post mint damage ( PMD)

Save Yourself time, effort, and disappointment...don't learn the coin hobby backwards.

Looking for random anomalies on coins and hoping they match up to something collectable will take you a lot more time, wasted effort, and disappointment repeatedly finding out you have nothing but post mint damage or useless Machine Doubling, Die Deterioration, etc.

Spend some initial time at places like error-ref.com, doubleddie.com, varietyvista.com, conecaonline.org, coppercoins.com etc. to find what actual and collectable coin errors look like.

A good way to start is, for instance, separate a bunch of pennies by date. Go to varietyvista.com and, date by date, use the reference there to see what errors are known for that specific coin/mint mark. Look for those specific errors/varieties using the pictures provided. After doing this for awhile you will KNOW what an actual error looks like and not have to waste time on face value and damaged coins.
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 Posted 04/07/2023  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Shawnanana13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the tips everyone!
Greatly appreciated :)
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I know damage on coins is common and regularly mistaken as an "error".

No, damage is never mistaken as an error. YOU might mistaken damage as an error, but the rest of the numismatic world does not. Damage is always damage and never considered an error.

I suggest you spend some time learning how coins are minted and reading past pages of posts here on CCF, there is a lot you can learn here!
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