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Star On Reverse Presidential Dollar Rim (2009)

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Just a beautiful little single star sitting on the rim. Is this worth getting graded?

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 Posted 04/27/2023  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

sure looks like a star on the rim.
But why does it look like there is a seam on the edge? (first tiny image) and it appears to be 2 different colors (second tiny image)
Can you post up better larger images of this coin, to include the star. the edge of the coin in this same area?
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Let's see if these pictures are bigger!
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Very interesting coin, I have not heard of this one so I think you have a real good one. I would do some asking around and maybe someone here has more information. I hope it is not a counter stamp.
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I hope it is not a counter stamp.


Me too, but that would be my working theory until I could prove it to be otherwise. The only mechanism that I can think of for this to happen during the striking process would be similar to a "dropped letter" that we see infrequently here on CCF.
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I'm in the PMD camp on this. Dropped letters are slightly smaller than their origin design and this one looks larger than the edge stars.
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Is that another star on the rim edge next to the other star (1st photo of last set posted)? Or am I just seeing things?
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Ok, I'm not seeing things either with the other faint stars!

And thank you everyone for your opinions/help. I was just trying to figure out how a star got from the edge to the rim, but maybe it's not that big of a deal afterall--as much as I like it! I've heard of post mint damage before but not of a counter stamp, so that is interesting.

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The stars on the edge are supposed to be there


I mean on the corner of the coin crossing over from the edge to the obverse, but it's probably just damage.
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After looking more than once, I'm going with my initial gut feeling.

Struck Through Dropped Filling. Remembering one similar posted a month or so ago, but struck through on the edge.

As for getting it graded, unless you or others see something I don't, my opinion is no. That doesn't mean it has no value. I find it interesting and would offer a bit more than face. Thanks, Doug.

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Looks interesting. That part of the coin isn't struck with the dies, they end at the gutter, so it can't be a struck in dropped letter.
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Impossible to be a dropped letter. The coin is strike then will go for side inscription and for this reason are two version of normal orientation and reverse orientation.

This coin it is stamped with a star which do not fit the form and the dimension of the real side ones. I see offend those coins as this one.
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As for Dearborn's question about two colors...

The coins are actually clad. Outer layers of Manganese brass with a solid copper core. It is relatively unusual to clearly see the copper, but not unheard of.
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