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What Is A Grey 1925 Wheat Cent?

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It is something I bought in an online estate auction run by a reputable local auction house for $13. Foolish maybe but I kind of just want to know what it is $13 bad. The estate looked to be a not very serious silver guy. It is on it's way right now, so I will get photos of my own tomorrow. Tonight however I cannot wait to see what you guys think. Forgery? $100K? Plastic? 1c?

These are the photos from the auction.


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Genuine, likely plated, details coin with environmental damage, no collector value in this condition.



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What do you suppose they plated it with? I doesn't look like silver. Al maybe? Zinc...but why, lol. I thought it looked kinda zinc-y.
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What do you suppose they plated it with? I doesn't look like silver. Al maybe? Zinc...but why, lol. I thought it looked kinda zinc-y.

Hard to tell, but you might add rub with mercury to the list. Thanks, Doug.
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Oh I didn't know that your could do that with mercury. Just read a bit on amalgams, neat stuff. Will that effect the weight negatively or positively? Positively correct?
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Yes, there would be a slight weight gain. But if the coin was light before the plating, it could weigh normal after the plating.
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Almost certainly plated; possibly zinc, possibly nickel - I suspect the latter because zinc would probably have turned black by now, plus zinc doesn't turn green, while nickel does. It almost certainly won't be mercury, because mercury slowly evaporates over time, and the silvery colour of a mercury-washed copper coin fades back to copper again after a few decades.

As for "why", that's impossible to know unless you were there watching the plating happen. Maybe someone was trying to make a penny look like a dime (which is, of course, illegal). Maybe someone was just fooling around with chemicals. I personally own a "plated" Australian 2 cent piece, that looks silvery; it's zinc plated, and I only know this because my dad (a chemistry lecturer at university) made it as part of a chemistry demonstration.
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Ok, I got my penny today. Under the assumption that it was plated I took a baby toothbrush and a bit of water and gently knocked what dirt I could off. I also though that the green stuff was copper stain but it came right off with light brushing. Then I noticed that all the dings were plated too, so it must be a recent plating, because as far as I can tell there is no discoloring in or around any of the dings. I tried to see if there were any thin spots in the plating, but I can't find any so they did a good job.

It weighs 3.21. Here are more pics. My microscope is messed up so. sorry they aren't better. If you want me to try again I will and I'll replace the images here.


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Plating is the only logical answer, and the weight confirms it. Just a junk coin, sorry.
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Ah thats cool with me, I just wanted to see what is was when I bought it, and I kind figured. :)
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Coins rubbed with mercury will have a bright shiny mirror-like finish. How do I know? Friend's dad showed us how to make our steel LWCs look like new again back in the early '70s.
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Yes, yes...plated. If coin's could talk.
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Coins rubbed with mercury will have a bright shiny mirror-like finish. How do I know? Friend's dad showed us how to make our steel LWCs look like new again back in the early '70s.

Are you suggesting they would look the same today? Thanks, Doug.
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We can say plated, but in fact it is a very easy to achieve in a solute boiling 2 min. and the cooper coin will achieve a silver color. The bigger damage it is this reaction it is not reversible.
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