1857 Flying Eagle Cent What Type Of Error Is This? Value?

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Bella628 New Member United States 14 Posts	Posted 05/19/2023 5:16 pm I have a Uncirculated 1857 Flying Eagle cent and there is a big error on coin from hole in planchet. What is this called? Does anyone know how valuable this coin would be? Edited by Bella628 05/19/2023 5:19 pm Report this Post to the Staff

jbuck Moderator United States 187702 Posts	Posted 05/19/2023 5:17 pm to the Community! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Bella628 New Member United States 14 Posts	Posted 05/19/2023 5:23 pm Thank you! Report this Post to the Staff
MisterT Pillar of the Community United States 2003 Posts	Posted 05/19/2023 5:31 pm Firstly, welcome to the CCF. Sorry, but this is not uncirculated and not an error. Just damage PMD. Report this Post to the Staff
Bella628 New Member United States 14 Posts	Posted 05/19/2023 5:35 pm I really didnt think this is damage. Couldnt something have been on the planchet that caused this hole? The entire coin shape was effected when it was pressed/stamped, as you can see in the pics this isn't completely round and the hole in the front effected how it was printed on the back. Is there any value in this or no? Thank you for taking the time to reply to my post btw, I really appreciate your insight! Report this Post to the Staff
Bella628 New Member United States 14 Posts	Posted 05/19/2023 5:39 pm Another pic Report this Post to the Staff
jacrispies Pillar of the Community United States 3848 Posts	Posted 05/19/2023 5:43 pm Just damage. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955 Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94925 Posts	Posted 05/19/2023 6:09 pm When a coin is struck, it is held in place by a circular 'collar'. These collars stop the planchet from expanding and helps to form the rim when the hammer die comes down. Seeing how your coin is out of round, we know that this could not have been done at the mint. Now there have been instances of where a collar did not deploy properly or at all, and we call these 'broadstruck' Do a search on this term or click the link of the word broadstruck. as for the 'hole in your coin it looks like it was ''Dremeled' out, possibly something was crushed into the surface of the coin in a vise or something. We may never know what or how the damage was caused, but it is damage. Additionally, this coin show obvious signs of wear - making this coin a 'circulated coin. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
kbbpll Pillar of the Community United States 4233 Posts	Posted 05/19/2023 6:11 pm I briefly considered the possibility that it was struck-through something, but then the reverse would still show the design and the denticles wouldn't be bent outwards at the deformity like that (the die would have to be bent for it to be struck that way). Whatever happened, it wasn't at the mint. Interesting conversation piece though. Edited by kbbpll 05/19/2023 6:13 pm Report this Post to the Staff
DBM Pillar of the Community Canada 9862 Posts	Posted 05/19/2023 8:15 pm I think it was once mounted as a jewelry item. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 05/19/2023 8:34 pm Severe damage, pretty much ruins the value of the coin. Worth maybe $15. to the CCF! Report this Post to the Staff
sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21786 Posts	Posted 05/19/2023 9:05 pm Sorry, no value with this much damage. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94925 Posts	Posted 05/19/2023 9:19 pm If you look at the reverse, you can see that it was smashed up against something hard and flat when the object was crushed in from the obverse. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
paralyse Bedrock of the Community United States 12057 Posts	Posted 05/19/2023 11:13 pm It is post-mint damage, and not a planchet defect. It unfortunately does not do the value of the coin any good. The force of whatever object or punch was used to make the mark on the coin also bent the coin out of shape. Even if it had no PMD, it would grade out around VF30 tops, not Uncirculated. It's still perfectly fine as a hole-filler in your album until and unless you want to upgrade to a nicer example later, or if this has sentimental value such as an inheritance or gift. I can't see the reverse of the 1858 SL in this photo, but that looks like a nice circulated coin, at least based on the obverse. I love the old albums. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Report this Post to the Staff
nss-52 Moderator United States 54280 Posts	Posted 05/20/2023 09:34 am It looks to me like it may have been counterstamped at one time, then later someone scratched/etched it out. Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here) See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) Report this Post to the Staff
jpsned Pillar of the Community United States 2200 Posts	Posted 05/20/2023 11:12 am I love that old-school Whitman folder. Looks like there's a hole for the 1856! Report this Post to the Staff
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