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1894 Indian Cent - Looks Like I Bought A Pig In A Poke

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 Posted 06/10/2023  6:32 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
No returns on this one. Paid $27 with shipping for what I thought was a XF40-45 coin. Seller's pics were shot in a way that didn't show the old scratches by the "O" on the reverse. Darned shame - coin is nice otherwise, but how many times do you see a coin with a problem and say that.

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 Posted 06/10/2023  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty decent photos.
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 Posted 06/10/2023  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, seems like shooting with natural diffused light is giving me the best results.
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 Posted 06/10/2023  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunate, the scratches detract for sure.
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 Posted 06/10/2023  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Despite those cursed scratches, it's still a very nice IHC, Blastenpene4
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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 Posted 06/10/2023  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU58. Scratches may details it but very attractive as per previous posters.
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 Posted 06/10/2023  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It really bothers me when sellers shoot in a way to disguise problems. I guess that's part of the deal, but seems pretty shady when you can't return the coin.
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 Posted 06/10/2023  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Simple question: why on earth would you buy a coin online without solid references and full return privileges?

Please, just a simply reply.
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 Posted 06/10/2023  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Taking a chance, I guess. I usually buy from dealers who allow returns. Greysheet for '94 in XF45 over $50. I paid $27, which will barely buy you lunch where I am. I'm willing to take a risk for this amount of money - sometimes risks work out, other not so much.
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I am more or less on the same page with all of the above comments.
I normally like to examine each coin in hand, searching for any detracting problems, and grade for myself, before deciding to buy.

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 Posted 06/11/2023  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The scratches without a doubt will detail this coin.

Au details, hard pass for me.
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"Even if you specify "no returns accepted," under the ebay Money Back Guarantee, the buyer can still return an item if it doesn't match the listing description or not as shown"
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I've had to do this before. As a courtesy to the seller, I'll message first asking for a full refund return, sending pictures of the coin and explaining why. If there's any pushback, then ebay can get involved. If you select item not as described it will start the refund process.

Unfortunately, if the seller is shady and trying to hide something, you may get pushback and try to pin the damage on you. Seen it before. If the item is removed from its flip, holder, etc, that it was sent in, it may cause some problems.

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 Posted 06/12/2023  07:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the advice. Seller's pics did not show this damage - purposely (?) I know I wouldn't sell a coin without showing its flaws and mentioning them in my description.
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AU-50 details, scratched.
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Thanks, 52Raymo and Ty2020b, for the suggestion. Turns out the seller was very nice about this and offered a full refund of all my costs. Without your suggestion I would have just held on to this and been annoyed. Guess you've got to give folks a chance to do the right thing before you draw premature conclusions.
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