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1914 S 1 Centavo (Us Territory) Improper Alloy Mix

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This is a Philippines Centavo but at the time it was a US territory so I believe this is the appropriate forum to post this. I don't know a lot about these but It has a nice design and this one really caught my eye with the dramatic striped alloy mix error. The coin is also showing some lamination issues. Weighs 5.11g

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Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 06/20/2023  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice contrasting colors.

Is the dot over the MM supposed to be round?
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 Posted 06/20/2023  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice example, thanks for shariing.
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Thanks P55 and Coinfrog, I'm not sure about those dots as they almost appear to be squared by design. Nothing else looks doubled so I'm assuming its normal design.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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Thanks Dearborn, yes I think this would be considered a woody though not a typical looking one.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 06/21/2023  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great find, nice Woody!
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Thanks E&V! Welcome back!
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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I do not know if this it is woody coin. the alloy of 95 cooper and 5 zinc and tin do not has this color woody and pattern. 5.11 gr it is a little bit underweight from 5.30gr. to be sure about I will do an XRF test to see exact alloy. This was war time coin strike and many things happened it that time from the point of view of alloys.

Second the color of the Reverse full dark and side and some lines on Observe do not has woody compliances. I think a foreign substance. Reverse show like liquid spreed on.

this it is my opinion. It is a relative common coins of Filipinas 5 mill strike
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You're welcome! And thank you very much for welcoming me back CoinHI! I am glad to be back.
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I'm also a little skeptical about this being a woody. It seems like it might just be oddly-colored surface oxidation. It is fun to speculate though.
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Nice looking condition.

Weight - 5.184 grams
Composition - 95% copper, 5% zinc, which includes 1% tin
Production run of 5,000,500.

Thanks, Doug.
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Thanks for the info Doug, I thought the lower mintage, condition, and alloy error made this a solid pickup for $15.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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The most lowers mintage for this series was1908 2.1 Mill, 1909 1.7 Mill,1910 2.7 Mill, 1915 2.5 Mill and 1920 2.5 Mill. and the variety 1918 Large S. Your coin was sold outside N. America with designation UNC which for me was MS 60 with 92 US. Hope help. They are collectors here around for those coins. Hope help
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