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Large Cent Rotated Dies

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 Posted 03/24/2009  11:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mikep to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi. Does anyone know of any resources regarding large cent rotated dies. Are these common?

Thanks, Mike
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 Posted 03/25/2009  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quite common but obviously ones with a 90-270 degree rotation are a bit more interesting
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 Posted 03/25/2009  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you. I purchased an 1830 with about 170 degree rotation. I think the price was fair, paid $31.00. I'm new to large cents, only have one other. I guess the grade would be VG? I'm really beginning to like them.

Did I do ok with price?

Mike
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 Posted 03/26/2009  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Mike,
If your coin is a solid VG with nice surfaces and no problems (i.e., no dents, scratches, cleaning, or corrosion) that $31 is a decent price IMO. So many Large Cents have problems that it's worth paying a bit extra for a "perfect" example, even in worn condition. The rotated die feature is a cool bonus. Congrats!
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 Posted 03/26/2009  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Jaobler. The main reason I bought the cent was because of the rotation. I'll post some photo's when get my camera back. It was sent in for a cleaning...
I'm beginning to see that a nice large cent is hard to come by. Corrosion, scratches, cleaning extreme wear appear on most of the cents I see. I guess many things can happen o copper in 150+ years.
I'm trying to hold off and find nice problem-free examples to start a set. I have a feeling that won't be easy, but fun.

Mike

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 Posted 03/30/2009  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Thank you. I purchased an 1830 with about 170 degree rotation. I think the price was fair, paid $31.00. I'm new to large cents, only have one other. I guess the grade would be VG? I'm really beginning to like them.

Did I do ok with price?

Mike

Do you really mean 170 degrees? That would mean the reverse is completely upside down. 180 degrees is completely upside down so yours would be close to that.
Rotated reverses are just becoming noticable by collectors and dealers. In the past a rotated reverse was a great way to lower the price a dealer was asking. You look at a coin, say you'ld like it except the reverse is rotated. They used to always lower the price for that. Note that many books and web sites do not even mention rotated reverses. The famous Red Book on pages 401 and up describe numerous error coins and even their approximate values but make no reference to a rotated reverse.
This is slowly changing though. Now with some sites mentioning them, The Lincoln Cent Resourse for example, dealers are starting to charge extra for them if substantially rotated.
Probably the largest amount of rotated reverses is with the Mercury dimes. Sometimes I find it is difficult to find one of them not rotated.
From what you mentioned yours is really a nice one. Might be the start of an error collection.
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 Posted 03/31/2009  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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quite common but obviously ones with a 90-270 degree rotation are a bit more interesting


HMMMM. OK biokemist6, if a coin has a 270 degree rotation, how do you know it's not a 90 degree to the left rotation and not a 270 to the right?
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could someone post some pics of large cents with rotated dies. I'm a new collector and would like to see what this looks like. thank you in advance.
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well it would be hard to let you understand with a picture because you would only see one side at a time. Just think of the bust being straight up (correct way) and when you turn the coin over the reverse design is spun around where its not straight upside down
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I also agree that this is a pretty common occurrence on early Large Cents. This is a good resource:
http://rotateddies.com/
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