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Dad pulled this out of a roll 15 minutes ago. It certainly appears to be a 1922 Plain cent. I see no trace of a D, the reverse is strong, and the date looks OK. Obviously I do not have a confirmed real one to compare it with, but what do think? Weight is 3.06 grams. I know the pics aren't great - I'll be getting the DSLR and telephoto lens out later today to get better ones. Preliminarily, though, what say you?    Edited by The Silver Searcher
07/03/2023 2:28 pm
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There seems to be indication of a D under there. Do you have a really strong magnifying glass?
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D there
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Bedrock of the Community
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Sharper closeup of the MM area please.
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will need a much better image of the date and MM area. (a close up if possible)
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Bedrock of the Community
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We'll definitely need a much clearer close up, of the date.
Errers and Varietys.
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Can't say with these photos.
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I'll wait for better pics. John1  |
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Because I'm no expert, just food for thought. Telephoto lens and or Macro lens. Both are great and have there place. Like two difference worlds. May take time to master. Thanks, Doug.
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Definitely need better photos. Contrary to what some people are saying, a shadow of a D doesn't preclude it being a 22 plain, since these were caused by a die abrasion issue and not an actual no mint mark variety. I'm personally not so into these die abrasion events that get treated as pseudo "varieties" for exactly this reason. Too much grey area of when exactly it becomes the "variety," which is placing even more power in the hands of the TPGs, which is always a bad thing imo. That said, this one is valuable enough that it's worth looking very closely if there's any chance it could be the plain. Also have to be aware that a lot of counterfeits were made by filing down the mint mark, so close ups will be helpful for precluding foul play. |
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Thanks for the thoughts, all. I am currently working on taking better photos, and this was one of the first ones I got. I thought I'd share it here as I keep trying to get better ones. We also looked at it with an analog microscope last night, and there doesn't appear to be any trace of a D mint mark under significant magnification. However, the 2s in the date look a bit.... off. So if this isn't a 22 plain, I lean towards it being an altered date and not a very weak D. Hopefully better pictures incoming!  |
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I lean towards it being an altered date That second 2 looks mighty strange. Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Here is an overlay with a 1922-D that comes from an heirloom collection of mine. I have no reason to suspect that the 1922-D is fake in any way, so I think it's a valid comparison. If you look at the second 2 on both coins, they look relatively similar in my opinion. The first 2 on the question coin, which is on the bottom in this picture, looks like it's been hit with something, which *may* account for why the 2s in the question coin look so different. If anyone has experience with altered date Lincoln cents, would you weigh in on how easy it is to spot? Additionally, I am more familiar with alterations being done on 1948 copper cents to look like 1943s, or people trying to make fake 1909 S cents.  Edited by The Silver Searcher
07/03/2023 1:54 pm
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Here is a side-by-side view with the genuine 1922-D. The question coin (on the left) seems to display the characteristic "mushiness" that genuine 1922 plain cents have.  Lastly.... here is a side-by-side with our coin on the left and a genuine 1922 Plain that sold at Stacks last fall. That coin also seems to have the first three numbers be slightly mushy with the last 2 sharper.  Last but not least, the reverse. Almost forgot to include that from the DSLR pictures.  Edited by The Silver Searcher
07/03/2023 2:27 pm
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Actually, this looks pretty good for a 1922 no D, die pair 2. Hard to imagine finding that in a roll!
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Posted 07/02/2023 7:45 pm
