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New Member
United States
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Hi coin community .. So I work at a laundry mat and my manager found a quarter that has no clad on both sides. Working in a laundry mat we come across many old coins lost and stuck in these machines. I asked him if I could have it and he handed it over to me like he comes across them all the time  You can see in one picture a small part of the rim has a smidge of clad. My question is what are the dark spots that are on both sides? Was there clad at one time or is this a real error coin? I find this coin very interesting and would like to get those marks off if possible. Altho it's beat up.. I like it because it's different, I just want to remove the dark spots that look like ink . From the picture it looks different but the marks are a dark purple.    |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
73747 Posts |
 To CCF! This is just an extremely Environmentally Damaged quarter. PMD. Errers and Varietys.
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Moderator
 United States
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Hi the @kiz. First, welcome to CCF. Second, sorry but it looks to me like these regions are the result of chemical or environmental exposure (corrosion) rather than a planchet with isolated spots of missing clad. Quote:
I just want to remove the dark spots This is probably a good time to mention the importance of not cleaning your coins. If you do have one that is valuable, cleaning it will most likely remove a lot of that value. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Bedrock of the Community
United Kingdom
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I've found similar-looking coins with my metal detector when they've been buried in very acidic soil for 40 years or so. Sometimes coins get like that if they are lost on a sandy beach at low tide and they get eroded with the sand and salt water.
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Moderator
United States
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to the CCF I agree with the other posters that this is a damaged coin and not a coin missing parts of the clad layers. Like not much you can do to improve it. Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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An accurate wight to two decimal places would be interesting to determine.
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Moderator
United States
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to the Community! |
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Moderator
United States
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to CCF!  that this coin is heavily damaged, but I have to ask - was it found in the washer or dryer? |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Same thoughts. to the CCF! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4135 Posts |
You seem to have an interest in coins so continue the hunt, learn as much as you can here on this site. People here will help you along your journey. Never be disappointed when you find something that has no value because the next find may be a keeper.
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New Member
 United States
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Hi again thanks for the welcome and to all that replies.
I did weigh the quarter and it weighs at 3.70 grams
And it was found on the side panel between two dryers .
Also I want to note that there are NO clad on either side
Because on the rim I can see a very small piece of a clad the rest is gone.
I can take better pictures of needed . The dark marks look like a kind of ink..
And one side looks like maybe glue residue. Are clads glued on when being made?
Any answers to the best way to clean a quarter with no clad?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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To understand the production of the clad is simply:
1. is done as is know as Sandwich procedures. Dr. Sandwich discovery the way to be done.
2. The clad consist in three layouts of metal: A- Cu-Ni, B-Cu and C-Cu-Ni.
3. So we have three rols of material which will past in the rolling machine. The operation is done on cold metals rolls.
4. No glue involved. The union of the metals is done by been press together and the Cu ions will unite.
the rest is simply to understand because if a coin go in washing procedures will be in contact with so many corrosive solutes.
Hope help
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Moderator
United States
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@kizz, you should not clean any quarter. You could soak it in pure acetone, which might remove ink and glue but I wouldn't do anything more than this.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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A clad nickel side on a quarter has a mass of about 1g. So your theory about missing both clad sides seems plausible, given that the usual mass is 5.67g, which makes your coin -2g light.
That gray stuff might be the remnants of the cupro-nickel clad layers. They are not glued. They are effectively welded onto the copper core by the process of manufacturing the clad metal rolls. But you can definitely break down those types of bonds with a combination of heat, mechanical stress, and chemical reactions.
Technically, this isn't a missing clad coin. That classification is for clad coins where one or both of the clad layers splits off prior to striking. Then the coin is struck, resulting in a very dramatic copper coin surface where it should be silvery nickel. Yours is just a normal quarter that has endured such extreme punishment that both clad layers were destroyed. I mean, it's cool and I would keep it, but I kinda doubt anyone would give you real money for it.
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New Member
United States
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No not looking for any kind of money for this .. I'm keeping it no doubt! It's very interesting to me and I like it a lot.. I came here to just find out more about it.. thank you because I now understand more about clad and how it is put together on a coin The advice on not cleaning it I will keep it as is..I won't clean it . My true collection of coins are dollar coins .. I keep and save every single one I get my hands on if it's old, new, even the beat up ones.. I even have one that looks like someone was bored during pandemic and took a piece of the rim and cut into it with perfect cuts and glued on every single cut a diamond like gem ..I know it's not worth a a stick of gum .. but it sure is beautiful ..I love even the ugly ones . Hey thanks everyone for giving me more knowledge on our quarter . I am new to collecting coins .. started 7 months ago .. I'm not much into quarters but this one I'm keeping because it's different and especially because it's been through heck n back! If only coins could talk! &  thanks again everybody, each person gave me a little something new to learn. I will now begin my journey here with the coin community .. keep your eyes out for me with my dollar coins . Posting my unusual finds from the laundry mat. |
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