1979 Washington Quarter Is This A Possible Retained Die Cud?

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gigi2110 Pillar of the Community United States 1770 Posts	Posted 08/01/2023 5:19 pm Hey everybody, how youbare doing well!! I found this 1979 Washington quarter, which I think is a minor Retained Cud, what do you think it is a retained, die crack or just damage? Thank you as always for your help! gigi2110 Report this Post to the Staff

Khromtau Pillar of the Community United States 676 Posts	Posted 08/01/2023 5:27 pm Damage, see how it is on both sides? Looks like it got dropped on the edge and got dented. Report this Post to the Staff
gigi2110 Pillar of the Community United States 1770 Posts	Posted 08/01/2023 5:34 pm Thank you! But did you see the the die crack crossing the Y? gigi2110 Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 08/01/2023 5:38 pm I find many 79 quarters with same Die Crack. Same I find in 1980 strikes. I do not have an explanation why? but find frequent. Report this Post to the Staff
Khromtau Pillar of the Community United States 676 Posts	Posted 08/01/2023 5:39 pm I see what you mean, but I think it is just how the metal got pushed up. Report this Post to the Staff
gigi2110 Pillar of the Community United States 1770 Posts	Posted 08/01/2023 5:45 pm @Khromtau I think is a die crack as @silviosi says. I do check under the microscope and to me look like a crack, I just want to confirm if it is Retained Cud. Thank you so much your opinion always its appreciate it!! gigi2110 Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 08/01/2023 5:49 pm Me I am not so familiar with what is Retained Cud. But this kind of crack the best to find it is in Morgan's. Striking those coins and Morgan's develop those cracks. It is a Die Crack with no doubt and for me is more an pre Cud. I have to see all definitions for Retained Cud in order to understand the way was think. Report this Post to the Staff
gigi2110 Pillar of the Community United States 1770 Posts	Posted 08/01/2023 6:03 pm Ohhhhh @silvio I thought pre-cud and Retained Cud was the same error. I need to learn more about them then. Thank you @Silviosi!! gigi2110 Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 95806 Posts	Posted 08/01/2023 6:15 pm looks like a pre-cud to me. My take on pre-cuds and Retained Cuds is this (and I may be wrong here but this is my thoughts.) Pre-cud - a rim to rim die crack that has not yet completed the crack to the very edge. Retained Cud - a die break rim to rim where the piece of the die is about to fall away and create a full Cud. Usually there will be a bit of movement of the design elements showing that the piece is moving. Let me try to find examples of what I'm trying to explain here. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Edited by Dearborn 08/01/2023 6:34 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 95806 Posts	Posted 08/01/2023 6:17 pm Here, try this for now - I'm still trying to find better images... https://cuds-on-coins.com/retained-...ledged%20cud. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
HondoB Bedrock of the Community United States 25170 Posts	Posted 08/01/2023 6:19 pm A pic of the edge at the Y area would be very helpful. Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 95806 Posts	Posted 08/01/2023 6:28 pm Here is an image of a Retained Cud on a wheat back cent: Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 95806 Posts	Posted 08/01/2023 6:33 pm and a pre-cud - no movement: Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74095 Posts	Posted 08/01/2023 6:33 pm I'd say it's a minor Pre-Cud. Nice find! Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 08/01/2023 6:46 pm Thank you DEAR. I will look close on those. By your short explanation give me an idea to develop. Thanks to you DEAR and GIGI to open the discussion. See you folks for my next post. Report this Post to the Staff
Petespockets55 Pillar of the Community United States 5772 Posts	Posted 08/01/2023 7:30 pm This sure appears to be a precud at a minimum. The rim looks like it might qualify as a rim Cud judging by the two endpoints with raised metal in between. I'm not sure if there is enough vertical displacement to the field above the left side of the "Y" to be considered a Cud, but it's close. Using Dearborns interpretation of some displacement to qualify as a precud, I would say this is a precud. (I'm not sure if cuds-on-coins makes that distinction though.) Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups. We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow. Report this Post to the Staff
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