2001 P Lincoln Memorial Cent / LMC Slaughtered At The Mint.

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donnie59 Pillar of the Community United States 780 Posts	Posted 08/07/2023 7:47 pm First, please pardon the number of pictures, but I want to show the amount of damage. This coin came from a sewn bag that came from the Mint. I picked it up from a local bank over 20 years ago. It appears the coin possibly got caught in counter and was jammed in it for a bit. I'm interested in other opinions. Keep in mind this coin was shipped from the Mint and never entered any sort of circulation. Report this Post to the Staff

Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 08/07/2023 7:52 pm I'll wait for the experts! to the CCF! Report this Post to the Staff
CoinHI Pillar of the Community United States 2731 Posts	Posted 08/07/2023 7:54 pm PMD -Reversed letters and "out of round" "Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254 Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 Report this Post to the Staff
donnie59 Pillar of the Community United States 780 Posts	Posted 08/07/2023 8:12 pm CoinHi, I agree this is damage to the coin, and I'm aware that is only worth face value(if that). By definition PMD can only occur after it leaves the mint. This cent was bagged and shipped by the mint in this condition and was the only coin in a bag of 5000 that was in this condition. I've been scratching head for 20 years over this one. Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34393 Posts	Posted 08/07/2023 8:28 pm Due to the circumstances of this coming from a mint sewn badge, I guess that the damage is technically PSD rather than PMD, but does that make much difference? "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
CoinHI Pillar of the Community United States 2731 Posts	Posted 08/07/2023 8:28 pm Unfortunately it's all speculation at this point. All we know is it's damaged,I guess more specifically PSD or Post Strike Damage. "Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254 Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 73659 Posts	Posted 08/07/2023 8:32 pm That's one badly damaged cent. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
ijn1944 Bedrock of the Community United States 19113 Posts	Posted 08/07/2023 9:09 pm Post-strike damage works for me. Report this Post to the Staff
Yokozuna Pillar of the Community United States 4618 Posts	Posted 08/07/2023 9:22 pm to the CCF! While it's possible, it can't be proven. I do understand that you may have seen it as the bag was opened, but the 'Chain of Evidence' was most likely broken long before you first saw the bag. Situations like this are always subject to speculation in both directions. Who shipped the bag originally? Where was the bag delivered? Lots of questions that really can't be answered at this point could show that this did happen at the mint, but in the end, it's just damage that can't be proven. If you had seen the bag being move, loaded and followed along with it while it was delivered, then only you would know the truth. If you didn't see it from the time the coin was struck, it's just guessing as to when this damage occurred. To me, it looks like other coins were resting against this one when something happened. A dropped bag? Crushed by a forklift wheel? Placed in a vise at the mint and squeezed? It's within reason, but again, impossible to prove. I've had coins that with anomalies that I know the situation, but only from my first contact with them. I once bought a mint sewn bag of 5000 cents with more than 620 extra coins. I KNOW that it came from the mint like that, but I can't prove it to anyone. I saw 8 American Silver Eagles come out of the same tube with almost identical strike through errors. I bought one graded and one raw from the dealer that ordered them. I have been told by coin experts that they really didn't think either situation was possible. Isn't coin collecting fun! ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94765 Posts	Posted 08/07/2023 9:52 pm Well in either case ( PMD - PSD) you are right about one thing - it was Slaughtered somewhere. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
SamCoin Pillar of the Community United States 3237 Posts	Posted 08/08/2023 03:02 am Doesn't really matter if it happened at the mint or in circulation, it happened after the coin was struck even if it took place at the mint facility, and at that point damage is just damage. Report this Post to the Staff
nickelsearcher Moderator United States 15389 Posts	Posted 08/08/2023 05:31 am to the CCF PSD works for me. Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 08/08/2023 06:43 am donnie59, If the bag is from the mint it is PSD. If the bag does not read U.S.Mint right on it, it could be PMD or PSD. Either way it is a damaged coin. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
donnie59 Pillar of the Community United States 780 Posts	Posted 08/08/2023 08:01 am Thanks for all the feedback. Luckily for me I actually enjoy finding this sort of thing in uncirculated coins. This is a great group with the members having a vast amount of knowledge! Report this Post to the Staff
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2001 P LMC Slaughtered At The Mint.