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1972-D 25c Washington Quarter

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I've got two of them actually that I'm considering sending in. I figured if I labeled them and put them both here labeled 1&2 then it may be ok to not start two threads about the same coin.

Mods -- if this is still not preferred, let me know and I will make an additional thread for the second. Thanks!

Pics below due to error.... :
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As a general rule a coin needs a minimum retail value after slabbing of $150 to justify all costs involved in sending it in. Here is a link on grading: https://www.PCGS.com/photograde/
Here is a link on values, also check ebay sold values: http://m.numismedia.com/rarecoinprices.htm
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Obverse pic incomplete, at least on my screen.
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My photos didn't upload right, and also uploaded incorrect ones.... Lemme try this again here

COIN 1
1972-D-25c-Washington-Quarter

COIN 2
1972-D-25c-Washington-Quarter
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I strongly suggest before sending them in you read the following facts about using grading companies:
Thinking of Slabbing? Make sure you understand the Facts...or You Could Lose Money.

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The Insider's Guide to Using Grading Companies


Popular mistaken mindset:
1. The grading companies are not a method/way that the majority of people, even those with a great deal of experience who know what they are doing, are going to be able to use in order to make huge personal profits. Many people start using grading companies thinking they will find a way to finance their hobby, but they learn a hard lesson quickly.

In general, the coin you have found in circulation is NOT going to make huge profits if slabbed. Way too many people pad the pockets of the companies and get nothing in return b/c they THINK (youtube videos!) they have something rare.

Professional predicting not possible:
2. Watch videos where experienced dealers get slabbed coins back from the grading companies. Note even people who live, eat, breath, and deal coins for a living can accurately predict what grade the companies will give. And...the "fault" (not really a fault) is in a widespread mistaken perception people get from being exposed to all the slabs being sold nowadays:

a. Coin grading companies are a business out to make a profit - this is why they exist. They use a system where allegedly three, but in reality it's normally two (read the guarantee carefully), graders look at each coin and give an opinion. The company videos showing the process make you believe this is a relaxed and paced process of studying each coin. In fact one PCGS video shows a number of guys sitting around a table discussing what they think a specific coin should be graded as (on youtube somewhere - sorry no link). Uh uh.

b. If you take a PCGS graded coin slabbed as MS64, break it out, and resubmit it to PCGS, you are never guaranteed the same grade again. The slabbed coin might come back MS62 (extreme and a bad day for graders), 63, 64, 65, 66 (extreme and a great day for you!). This is b/c the process is all subjective: No scientific/verifiable standards or methods are used. This subjectivity makes for greater company profits since people resubmit the same coin trying to get a higher (better price when selling) grade. In the 90s the companies, at great expense, created better (their own words) scientific methods not relying upon human opinion. No doubt the large profit from the re-slabbing game fell. The companies abandoned the science and went back to their less accurate systems.

c. It needs be mentioned that the fewer the "money grade" slabs a company assigns, the more prices of said slabs climbs. Thus more business is generated b/c more people pay to slab coins hoping to get that "money grade" slab. And the companies do keep records (accessible online) of how many of the higher graded slabs exist for each coin. While the idea of keeping money grade slabs minimized is speculative, there has been some convincing evidence of this being reality.

But..this is all hearsay without proof. So...

Grading the coin graders:
http://goccf.com/t/346174#2967242
Here is another good read from someone there at the start of the grading companies:

Hobby negative impacts from slabbing companies
http://goccf.com/t/130186

Error on errors:
3. People also seem to think grading companies will examine a coin to see if they can find an error and then slab it as such. But again, they ONLY GRADE coins. The companies will NOT try to find and ID an error for you. You must FIRST ID the error yourself, CHECK to see if the company you want to use recognizes that specific error, PAY them to verify the error on the label, and then you may or may not actually get what you pay for! The companies have a bad reputation for attributing errors incorrectly.

Link to and read (download if you want it) the pdf link in my signature as an eye opening example. Sadly, the verifiable data presented from the PCGS website shows trusting people have spent thousands of dollars on many slabbed coins that are not what the companies claims/slabbed the coins to be.

Cost concerns:
4. B/c people do not understand the businesses, so very many people end up with spending far more money to slab a coin than the coin is worth. The companies profit greatly with membership fees, submission fees, insurance fees, priority shipping fees and extra (chosen) fees. When you do the math for all of these fees you are approaching $150-200.00 for a slabbed coin the very first time you submit. ANACs does not have all these fees though.


You don't have to throw in the towel over these companies...but education about the reality of them will put you on the right pathway to dealing with them in a legit way without losing money in the process.
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 Posted 08/09/2023  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
don't see any 1 & 2 labelling, an example of why we recommend one coin per thread
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Good breakdown, Earle42.
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@Nick I had them labeled in the corner, written in the capture -- but after formatting it to reqs it got cropped. So point taken. No more piggybacking :|
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nice photos especially when opened. good job there.

these are 2 very nice Washington's. when you are looking at a 68 grade there is virtually nothing wrong with the coin. both coins have a few very minor but relevant ticks on the rims. the coins are better than any 66 grade imo. look very close to the fields for any discoloration. this would probably eliminate the + so it comes down to a 67 or 67+

so look at the numbers...out of 244MM coins PCGS has graded 24 at 67 and 4 at 67+. those odds are not that great considering PCGS loves to protect their top-pops.

there are no sales of a 67 or + sold on ebay so nothing to compare prices. Stacks sold a 67 for $576 in April. the last sale of a 67+ was by Heritage in 2018 for $1320

if they look this good in hand I would call them a good solid 67. out of any of the coins you posted these two are probably your best and worth a grading shot. the issue is selling them now or even down the road. with nothing selling at auction in a while and if you want to sell them its going to be a tough one finding someone who wants a high end common coin. on the plus side is you are in rarified air at those grades and there are folks who are looking for these especially since they dont come up that often

Good Luck. if you decide to send them. I would be very curious as to they call it. I would not use anyone but PCGS for these to maximize value if you are planning on selling them. at worst the coins would be encapsulated and protected. I am not a fan of slabbing but there are some exceptions
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