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There's nothing "ancient", "middle eastern", or "asian" about it. It's either a coin of Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain, or a reproduction thereof. Maybe someone else can determine date and denomination, but I can't. Give us the weight and diameter, and some clearer fotos, if you want more specific information.
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Common or typical replicas of these coins exist. They can fool dealers or novice collectors into accepting as genuine.
This coin: maybe maybe not.
The photo is no help to determine good or bad authenticity either way.
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08/12/2023 10:33 pm
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One of the two different Ferdinand & Isabella replica pieces that turn up CONSTANTLY.
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I have a pair with no final resolution to date.
The first was bought as a CCC from a dealer that should know better.
If he's right or wrong has not been determined.
The second was a freebie from a dealer's junk box.
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Below are examples of both of the common replicas... First is another example of what "JusttheFacts31" has. It's a reasonably faithful copy of a Ferdinand and Isabella Toledo mint 1 Real. The second type can only be described as cartoonish. Left of the shield I guess has to be regarded as the "II" denomination for 2 Reales... but no specific mint can be named b/c again, everything is just too sloppy. The first type can theoretically fool some people from a photo... not the second. In hand even the "good" first one is typically an obvious cast. The last pic is actually a promo card that this was issued with. The informational card calls it a "2 Reales", yet shows a pic of the Toledo 1 Real . However, if you look closely, the repro coin that was with it was actually the sloppy 2 Reales described above. Thus, these two types may have distributed through the same channels.    |
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Can the name of this thread be changed to:
Ferdinand & Isabella 1 Real & 2 Reales replica coins
for future reference purposes?
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Thanks for the great feedback everyone. I found this coin 50 years ago next to my sandbox when I was a kid. It's been in my coin jar ever since and I guess that is where it will stay. I always wondered what is was and if it had any monetary value.
Please move this post to a different topic as mentioned earlier if that makes sense.
Thanks
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Can the name of this thread be changed to:
Ferdinand & Isabella 1 Real & 2 Reales replica coins
for future reference purposes? Done. Next time, please click on the "report this post to the staff" link as that is a much more efficient way of letting us know. Thx. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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The photos are good enough to tell that this is a low quality casting. All the features have the rounded look of the mold they were poured in. Striking a coin produces square details. This looks like cut metal, instead of like molded Play Doh. Better casting techniques can hide this. Here's a genuine struck cob for comparison. Also a poor photo, but good enough to see the cut look of the date and pillar. In hand it's even sharper looking.  "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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08/14/2023 7:52 pm
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Posted 08/12/2023 10:07 pm
