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1860 Indian Cent, Pointed Bust, With A Counterstamp & A Question .

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I just purchased the below pictured coin because I was able to attribute the counterstamp. The tiny stamp, both obverse and reverse, reads: Wm.D. BRIGGS. This stamp matches that seen on the underside of his silver spoons. He also referred to himself as "Wm. D. Briggs" in an 1857 NY City advertisement.

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1860-Indian-Cent,-Pointed-Bust,-With-A-Counterstamp-&-A-Question-.
1860-Indian-Cent,-Pointed-Bust,-With-A-Counterstamp-&-A-Question-.
1860-Indian-Cent,-Pointed-Bust,-With-A-Counterstamp-&-A-Question-.

The seller described this pointed bust variety as "rare." Having seen a number of these pointed bust pieces over the years, my guess is it's a moderately scarce variety .... or, am I missing something here?
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Cool!

Even in the 1860s it must have cost at least a good portion of a penny to counterstamp it. I really wonder what purpose it served.
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Moderately scarce I guess. https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin...ed-bust/2056 one guy says 6 times rarer than the rounded bust, the other guy says 5% of the mintage. 5% of 20 million is still a lot of coins... Cool counterstamp, both sides too!
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Interesting, thanks for sharing!
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The pointed bust is scarcer than the rounded bust, but like kbbpll notes, it's scarce only in relation to its counterpart, not scarce in terms of numbers.

Any counterstamp you can identify is definitely a winner, as you're very well aware!
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Even in the 1860s it must have cost at least a good portion of a penny to counterstamp it. I really wonder what purpose it served.


The stamps were commonly made by masons to label their products, silverware, scientific instruments, scalpels, watches, guns, locks, you name it .... Sometimes the product maker created the stamp, and other times, a brother mason would fashion the stamp, a skilled die-cutter. The maker of this TINY stamp in the 1850's was assuredly most skilled.

There are dozens of reasons that coins were stamped. First and foremost, coins were a handy piece of metal to simply test a stamp. Those who stamped coins often carried one or more of them as a calling card of sorts; these, being forerunners of Masonic Chapter pennies, I suspect. The stamping of coins in the 1850's was a tremendous fad. Many of these "little billboards" (Greg Brunk's term) served as a medium of advertising. Others were stamped as checks or IOU's, in effect. The stamped coins were often used as conversation starters. The list goes on ....

Some issuers, typically merchants, stamped dozens, if not hundreds of coins. Since this Briggs coin is possibly the only one known and lacks a location, its purpose was other-than-advertising.
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Thanks, kbbpll & paralyse, for confirming my suspicion. The term "rare" has to be one of the most excecessively used adjectives in numismatics!
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Great acquisition, ExoGuy!
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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My old lady scofts at at me when I say say...the more I read...the more I learn...
She's not getting any either! LOL
nice read...
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Very cool!
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