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Can Anyone Help Me Determine If This 1884 CC Morgan Is Counterfeit Or Not?

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 Posted 09/17/2023  01:37 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Blondebear to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
The Morgan and question is the one on the right. I've made a collage to compare it with a for sure real Morgan (left).

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 Posted 09/17/2023  04:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@blon, what is the weight of your coin?
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 Posted 09/17/2023  06:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A quick look at the font used for the date and mint mark provides your answer.

Spence asks a good question about weight that should accompany all such authenticity requests - although in this case it is not necessary.

@Blondbear - what do your eyes see when comparing the date and mint mark between the two?
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 Posted 09/17/2023  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add I6609 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nickelsearcher I do see the difference between the 2 areas you are talking about my question becomes could circulation flatting be the reason for that difference. And I'm not an expert on these just trying to learn how to recognize the differences the op coin is clearly well circulated.
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 Posted 09/17/2023  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add burfle23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I always compare to known VAM mm reverses:

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 Posted 09/17/2023  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Genuine without a doubt.
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 Posted 09/17/2023  11:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seems fine to me as well. If you look at these in similar condition, the date and MM are similar, for example this one https://coins.ha.com/itm/morgan-dol...bnail-071515
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I don't have the coin in question. I came across these listings on ebay and the seller has the same exact listing over and over and over again same exact pictures same exact coin, along with the same title and the same descriptions. I don't know how the seller can have has so many Morgan dollars that are exactly the same?

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@Nickelsearcher in my opinion the mint marks look different. The coin in question the mint mark is too big, and it's not spaced properly.
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I was just comparing them again and I came across this. It's the difference in their neck. They're just not the same...

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 Posted 09/17/2023  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it's not genuine, it would sure fool me.
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Post a link to the listing. Then we can better evaluate the seller and their listings. You have to compare other coins in VG8 or so grade to really evaluate this one.
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 Posted 09/26/2023  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This Morgan looks genuine to me. Seems likely the ebay seller is using the same photo in multiple listings. Successful bidders will probably receive different counterfeit coins.
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