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New Member
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Hey everyone! I'm new here! My grandfather passed away last year, so I finally started going through some of the things he left me. One of those was a tiny purse of coins that probably hasn't been touched in years. His son was a coin collector/dealer before he passed away 15 years ago. I found this coin, and I'm sure it's a fake because how could it possibly be real lol But thought I'd give it an ask and see what the experts think!     |
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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The "1" looks funky and people have mesed with them for years, altering the date
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Well,  , you have indeed come to the right place! At the moment, nothing screams fake/altered to my eyes at least  , and looks like the real deal to me. According to coinsandcanada website, about 400 1921's are still in existence after the vast amount were melted. Also according to their site, this coin could be worth in the neighborhood of around 4,000ish for this VG-8ish condition coin... The Canadian experts should shed more knowledge about your coin...  There is an outside chance that some folk messed with a 0 in the date to a 1, since I see something shadowy underneath the last 1... Edited by mrwhatisit
10/01/2023 8:37 pm
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New Member
 United States
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 I'm just taking pics with my phone and terrible lighting, so it's hard to see. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I don't see a fake there...looks perfectly respectable to me. But if you're concerned I suggest having it graded - that will also be an opportunity for authentication. Once it's in a hard cover, if you wish, you'll be well positioned to sell it. As mentioned above, 1921 is a big year.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Gulp...That was my first reaction! No red flags from me. Little things like the very, very tiny "wave" in the bottom serif of the first 1 in the date are even present. If it's a fake, it's very, very good one. All we have are pictures to go by, but I think it is real. I would get a weight first though before sending it in. That would save you a lot of money unless you use ANACS. PCGS or NGC are going to sharge you a mandatory membership fee meaning, out of pocket after insuracne, postage etc., you will be putting 150.00-200.00 into this. ANACS fees are way less, but a cheap way to authenticate. When selling PCGS slabs bring higher profits for no verifiable reason than being more "name brand" (none of the companies use any verifiable standards to grade coins and equal amounts of complaints can be found online for all of them - it's all subjective). Probably Heritage Auctions would be the way to sell this coin..but wait for those who have used the online respected auction places. This is better than ebay fodder. How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2Edited by Earle42
10/02/2023 12:45 pm
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United States
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Pretty sure it's genuine.
There are so many fake 21's out there that you are going to need to have it certified.
Never ever send valuable Canadian coins to ANACS for grading.
Send it to either ICCS or PCGS.
ICCS is the least expensive option as well.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Never ever send valuable Canadian coins to ANACS for grading.
Send it to either ICCS or PCGS. Not sure why that is, but regardless, I have seen enough horror stories even on this forum PCGS and NGC to know that sending in a coin to PCGS, NGC, ANACS, or ICG I would video packaging it, include the pics I had of the coin so they knew I had them, and as soon as it got to me, video unpackaging and comparing. |
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New Member
Canada
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Assuming the coin is silver (magnet test) you need to weigh it. A fake will almost never weigh the same as the specs given by the mint. I like the hard slabs at CCCS which are reasonable cost and quicker turnover.
Alloy: 80% silver, 20% copper
Weight: 1.17 gram
Diameter : 15.50 mm
Engraver: Obverse: Sir E. B. MacKennal, Reverse: W. H. J. Blakemore
Designer: Obverse: Sir E. B. MacKennal, Reverse: W. H. J. Blakemore
Edge: Reeded
Magnetism: Nonmagnetic
Die axis: #8593;#8593;
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New Member
United States
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It is not magnetic, but I'll have to get a scale to weigh it. Thanks everyone!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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New Member
United States
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New images!   |
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Valued Member
Canada
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Seems good to me, but always better to see in hand.
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