$1 Mississippi 2023 Coin With Doubling On Rim/Edge - What Is The Term?

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marie123 New Member United States 17 Posts	Posted 11/10/2023 12:40 pm Hi! Still new here and trying to learn. I have this $1 Mississippi American Innovation 2023 coin with some things going on with the edge of the coin. There are multiple stars, and the letters look like they were dragged. What is this called? Thanks in advance! Really appreciate what I am learning from you all. Report this Post to the Staff

marie123 New Member United States 17 Posts	Posted 11/10/2023 12:43 pm Two more photos: Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 73930 Posts	Posted 11/10/2023 12:57 pm Interesting. I'm also seeing PMD too. Errers and Varietys. Edited by Errers and Varietys 11/10/2023 12:59 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34397 Posts	Posted 11/10/2023 1:49 pm Good point @e&v--there is some amount of damage there. I guess the question for me is whether that explains everything. I look forward to seeing where we net out on this. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Halo1st Pillar of the Community United States 2775 Posts	Posted 11/10/2023 3:13 pm Current images seem to show something interesting has happened. The glare seems to tie my minds eye a bit as well as opens it to some possibilities. Incused devices shouldn't show spread. Also a lot seems smeared across the edge surface. Question is did it happen during the edge lettering process (mishap at the mint)? Can you back off the edge and photograph the whole edge in quarter sections? Also curious about which mint? Thanks, Doug. Report this Post to the Staff
marie123 New Member United States 17 Posts	Posted 11/10/2023 4:09 pm Doug Thank you for taking the time to look at this! I just got this from the US Mint in a $25 roll. Denver mint. This one is difficult to get good photos of, and I am new with the scope. The stars look smeared, there is one star that looks like it was punched 3 times, and another area with lighter stars within the smear. I also got a photo of the edge where there is a chunk missing near the stars. Edited by marie123 11/10/2023 4:12 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Tacc Pillar of the Community United States 3535 Posts	Posted 11/10/2023 4:31 pm Looks like the smearing would have been caused by heavy PMD. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 95435 Posts	Posted 11/10/2023 6:59 pm There is some damaged noted, but could the coin/planchet have rotated in the collar just prior to ejection? Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Halo1st Pillar of the Community United States 2775 Posts	Posted 11/10/2023 8:14 pm I'm not a hundred percent certain about current procedures. Excluding proof strikes in the past, the edge lettering was applied separate or after the initial obverse and reverse strike. Thanks, Doug. Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6492 Posts	Posted 11/10/2023 8:24 pm It seems unlikely that PMD would cause such extensive edge damage without any damage to either face. At least, not the run of the mill PMD that we see on these forums. Maybe some kind of damage happened in a slot like a coin counting machine, or maybe this coin got stuck in a chute or slot at the mint. To my eyes, it looks a bit like the letters got dragged from the inside, which suggests damage from whatever device strikes the edge lettering. But I don't know how these newer coins are manufactured to that level of detail. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 11/10/2023 8:25 pm to the CCF! Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6492 Posts	Posted 11/10/2023 8:35 pm Doing some reading now, apparently the edge lettering is applied separately in a second minting step after the faces are struck. Report this Post to the Staff
marie123 New Member United States 17 Posts	Posted 11/10/2023 9:17 pm Thanks Doug, Dearborn and Brandmeister! That would make sense if two different steps. Especially because there isn't a similar kind of damage on the obverse or reverse. I'll look more into that. Appreciate each of your help! Report this Post to the Staff
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