Dilemma: 1920 German Aachen 50 Pfennig Possible Wrong Planchet

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mrwhatisit Pillar of the Community United States 2827 Posts	Posted 11/27/2023 9:55 pm I bought this from whatnot sometime ago since I liked it. When I went to Numista to check out its N# among other data points, was not expecting two different types of the same coin, namely N#13439 and N#64685. Here is where the dilemma occurs: for N#13439 which is my specimen, it is supposed to have a 22-sided Icosidon, but mine is clearly reeded, as the N#64685 mentions... The question remains: Is Numista mixed up on this particular notgeld's edge, or do I have a genuine wrong planchet on my hands? I will assume the rest of the page/s on this notgeld are right, 24mm, and about 5.16g for my specimen, though I should mention the other type weighs 5.1g (no scale at the moment, may weigh later) Mind not the literal rust spots, as this is made from iron A view of the rim: Any comments and ideas very welcome Report this Post to the Staff

Spence Moderator United States 32903 Posts	Posted 11/27/2023 9:58 pm @mrw, how about reaching out to numista directly? At least one member here is an admin over there and could likely get you connected to their 20th Century Germany expert. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
mrwhatisit Pillar of the Community United States 2827 Posts	Posted 11/27/2023 10:09 pm Cool that you mentioned that, Spence. I was actually contemplating becoming a member of Numista myself since I have a number of items that are not yet found there, as when I went looking, nothing came up... Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 68713 Posts	Posted 11/27/2023 10:43 pm Numista is a great resource for world coins, I use that site almost daily. I think I need to sign up with them also. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 47/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 68713 Posts	Posted 11/27/2023 11:17 pm Well, after looking at Numista.com, I can say that this would not be the N#64685. It had the wrong Eagle on it (compare the shape of the mouth.) What you have is the N#199494 or the N#199496 version - These have the reeded edge. The BIG HUGE difference between these 2 are the way they are struck N#199494 is a 'Medal alignment' coin and the N#199496 is a 'Coin alignment' coin A VERY accurate weight will help you out. and determining which way it was struck will nail it down for you. The weights are: N# 13439 - 5.16g N#199494 - 5.0g medal alignment struck https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces199494.html N#199496 - no weight - coin alignment struck https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces199496.html N#64685 - 5.1g (this has a different bird on it.) Hope this helps. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 47/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Edited by Dearborn 11/27/2023 11:21 pm Report this Post to the Staff
mrwhatisit Pillar of the Community United States 2827 Posts	Posted 11/27/2023 11:34 pm Ok, more digging reveals that this is the N#199494 after all since mine is medal alignment... Thanks much Dearborn! Did a Google search instead of Numista site proper, lol... Edited by mrwhatisit 11/28/2023 07:31 am Report this Post to the Staff
Hondo Boguss Bedrock of the Community United States 17713 Posts	Posted 11/27/2023 11:41 pm I've added a couple of items to Numista. No idea how they verify new submissions. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ex...a386915.html Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 68713 Posts	Posted 11/27/2023 11:43 pm My pleasure Mr What is it. But I think you meant N#199494 not 394 right? Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 47/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Edited by Dearborn 11/27/2023 11:46 pm Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 161167 Posts	Posted 11/28/2023 08:25 am Nice example, mrwhatisit, and well done, Dearborn! Coin Collector Since 1978 My Avatar My Old Avatar My 7070 My Eisenhower Dollars CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 68713 Posts	Posted 11/28/2023 08:51 am Thanks jbuck Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 47/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
peanut26 Valued Member Canada 276 Posts	Posted 12/02/2023 4:31 pm Wow thats very interesting. The more I read all these different posts and explanations the more I realize how much I don't know. Gotta read lots more Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 68713 Posts	Posted 12/03/2023 8:15 pm Yep, we are all in that boat in one way or another.... Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 47/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
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