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1969-D Nickel With Higher Than Usual Nickel Content

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 Posted 11/28/2023  8:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Evil Texan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I saw a previous post for a copper nickel. I suspect a section of the planchet sheet had higher than normal copper content. I could make out what appear to be traces of nickel similar to what is seen with poorly mixed alloys. The previous post was also a 1969 coin, but a Denver mint. This one lacks a mint mark so my vote is Philadelphia. I just ordered a coin scale which will arrive on Friday. Slightly more worn than an average 1969 nickel, but dimensions are correct. I was coming through 41 roots when this dropped out. Initially I thought it was toning, but on closer examination it is the actual content. The alloy is definitely not consistent. The reverse shows a bit of nickel in the center on the reverse and there are darker areas in the obverse. I would consider it an error for poor quality planchet alloy. How that would be referenced by the experts I do not know. And no it has not even been wiped off. My guess is 90% copper or higher and the remainder nickel. It happened occasionally with CUNI fasteners I worked with on ships.

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 Posted 11/28/2023  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Evil Texan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did not spot the D until looking at the posted image. So that makes two of these 1969 D nickels in mostly copper
content posted on this site. This one appears to have more wear than the previous post.
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 Posted 11/28/2023  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Evil Texan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Closer examination of the obverse shows that the area that looks like corrosion behind the head is nickel and a little of the same below the collar. Definitely a poorly mixed planchet supplied to the mint.
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At first glance, I'm seeing post-strike damage of an environmental exposure nature--perhaps spent some time in a fountain or in moist soil.
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XRF analysis is needed to confirm that this is an improperly mixed planchet and the "copper" areas are indeed copper.
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 Posted 11/28/2023  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Highly damaged coin, wild imagine here.

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I'm just seeing Environmental Damage ( PMD) here.
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 Posted 11/29/2023  04:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure looks like environmental damage to me. This is exactly what nickels look like that I find metal detecting.
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Evil Texan,

I agree with environmental damage.
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environmental toning - the arcs you see on this coin are most likely from other coins resting on top (and under) on it and protecting it from the elements.
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I agree with everyone here, especially ijn1944, HondoBogus, and ICutler.

I find similar looking coins metal detecting on a regular basis but because of the shape of the stain behind his head I'm thinking this one is from a cup holder where a cent or dime had been touching it. Moisture causes this lighter colored staining.
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Hondo calls it.



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The lighter areas in person appear to be regular shiny nickel. The entire outside edge of the coin is shiny copper with no nickel. When I get the scale in a few days I will update. The appearance when I first held it looked like staining, but is not the case. Could natural electrolysis have occurred? Maybe, but it is not just a stained surface. I even considered that the coin had been plated with copper. All of the high areas show fresh red copper with no sign of the nickel. Toning would be surface only and raised areas that show wear would be more likely to show nickel. I do not want to damage the coin to find out.
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I appreciate that I am new here, but statements such as " wild imagining" are not warranted and a bit insulting. Especially when you do not know a person's background. The coin is more worn than weathered.
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@Evil Texan.... I'm not an expert but I do agree w/ the other regarding the stained/environmental damage being the most logical explanation, as we've seen similar posts in the past. While you're awaiting the arrival of your scale.... if you have any coin dealers/shops in your area, you could always bring it in & get an opinion or two. If it were my coin, that's what I'd do.
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@ Evil Texan This appears to be PMD, staining due to chemicals of some environmental nature.
As mentioned above, may be a found coin from metal detecting.
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