1961 Half Dollar Doubled Die Reverse / DDR Input / Thoughts

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Chizzy New Member United States 23 Posts	Posted 12/16/2023 4:17 pm So I'm thinking this is a DDR but would like input. Sorry for the glare for it's still in the plastic. Report this Post to the Staff

Tacc Pillar of the Community United States 3535 Posts	Posted 12/16/2023 5:23 pm I'd say Machine Doubling of some sort. Report this Post to the Staff
DOCC Pillar of the Community United States 1502 Posts	Posted 12/16/2023 5:39 pm I see nothing but Machine Doubling. Report this Post to the Staff
Cujohn Pillar of the Community United States 7174 Posts	Posted 12/16/2023 5:53 pm Flat shelf like and makes the letters smaller, Machine Doubling. You will find the bigger the coin, the more MD. Report this Post to the Staff
Earle42 Bedrock of the Community United States 10034 Posts	Posted 12/16/2023 6:18 pm This is Machine Doubling. Whenever you suspect you have a doubled die, RPM, or OMM go to varietyvista.com and find a match. Note: If you do not find an EXACT match to your coin listed using this easy method, then you most likely have a damaged coin or other issues like (non collectable) Machine Doubling, Die Deterioration Doubling, etc. (look these up at error-ref.com) If after checking there you think you have a match, then feel free to post the link and we can verify for you or help you understand why not How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halves https://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74066 Posts	Posted 12/16/2023 9:36 pm Machine Doubling unfortunately. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 12/17/2023 05:00 am Chizzy, It is MD and please no more photos of a monitor screen...thanks. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
MisterT Pillar of the Community United States 2003 Posts	Posted 12/17/2023 05:50 am Flat shelf like Machine Doubling is what I see. Report this Post to the Staff
Sharks Pillar of the Community Canada 1763 Posts	Posted 12/17/2023 1:53 pm - Chizzy Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6498 Posts	Posted 12/17/2023 2:30 pm The clipped tips of the T's and E says Machine Doubling to me. However, the A's and R's have the structure preserved right down to the serifs, and that's a little odd. This looks like an uncirculated coin in mint cellophane. Is it a proof or a business strike? I assume business, but I don't know what a proof looks like under plastic. All the VV listings for 1961 are proofs. Always check Wexler as well. Regardless, you should have an image of the whole coin face. It seems that Franklin halves usually show the strongest doubling on EPU, so you might want to take a look there as well. Report this Post to the Staff
Chizzy New Member United States 23 Posts	Posted 12/17/2023 8:08 pm Here is full pic of front and back and yes this is the proof set so it has the other 4 coins with it in plastic cellophane. Edited by Chizzy 12/17/2023 8:44 pm Report this Post to the Staff
mrwhatisit Pillar of the Community United States 2954 Posts	Posted 12/17/2023 8:21 pm Yeah, with the above, Machine Doubling, not the real DDR. The real DDR would also be well doubled on the EPU reverse motto. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 95755 Posts	Posted 12/17/2023 8:32 pm yep also - MD Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
smat45 Pillar of the Community United States 2334 Posts	Posted 12/17/2023 9:01 pm Read and re-read what Earle42 said... Great explanation! smat edit to correct Earle42's name...sorry Edited by smat45 12/17/2023 9:04 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6498 Posts	Posted 12/17/2023 9:22 pm Well, you take excellent pictures! Unfortunately, this discussion has far exceeded my knowledge on Franklin halves. I put this coin side-by-side with a 1961 proof Wexler WDDR, and I'm not sure how the pros conclude that a feature is MD vs. die doubling on this series. The doubling on the true WDDR is shallower than the lettering, to the point that some of it got polished away on the L during die polishing. So obviously flat and shelf-like doesn't immediately indicate Machine Doubling on these coins. Likewise, that chubby bar on your N sure looks like a traditional doubled die to me. I can certainly accept the word of the more experienced folks here. But it would help to hear the breakdown of concluding MD vs. DDR on a Franklin half. Report this Post to the Staff
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1961 Half Dollar DDR Input / Thoughts