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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Valued Member
Netherlands
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Coin and stamp look OK to me. It is listed as KM# 440.8 and the description in Krause states: In 1834, the Portuguese government ordered that the
countermarking of all Spanish Colonial 8 Reales in circulation with the crowned arms of Portugal, to indicate a revaluation to 870 Reis..
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Valued Member
United States
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An unlikely host for the stamp, plus the edges of the coin are weirdly sharp, so the coin looks almost cylindrical. Add in the sellers feedback of 2... no way this is genuine.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
25327 Posts |
Look at the seller's other coins. Rare items from places far from China.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Pillar of the Community
United States
878 Posts |
Just zooming in for comparison of an ngc image with the ebay fake. The field on the pillar side has that oily freshly minted in China look.   |
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Pillar of the Community
Portugal
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An 1738 8 reales would be a good host for the crowned shield stamp.
The problem I am seeing immediately is the stamp. The crown is too high. I do not think it genuine.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Perhaps incorrect serif on the I and T as well. I could not find this on other examples of the 1738 (but only looked at a dozen)
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Valued Member
United States
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I vote for it being fake. How is it that a seller with so little feedback gets such a rare coin to sell? Looking carefully at the bottom of the letters, it seems that the T in "ET" and the R in "REX" have indentations, whereas from my limited look in real coins those letters have flat bottoms. I have seen that indentation serif in real coins, but it does not seem to appear in 1738 coins. That seems to be a very high quality fake. Who knows, coin in hand, you might accept it as real. Or maybe the weight is off, or the material (although I suspect for such a coin they would have used .900 silver). So much crap on ebay. I keep seeing the guy from Poland sell and sell stuff that should not fool anybody, but gets bids, and sometimes gets bids up to nominal value of the coin (if were real). After awhile and getting complaints he just re-boots with another name. I have noticed another seller and ask others to look at his stuff: https://www.ebay.com/str/thechinacollectorsMany nice coins, not obviously fake to look at them. However every single one is pristine silver, like a coin minted this year. How could every one of his coins be obtained in this condition? Very little bidding on these coins, which start at $25, which indicates that most other collectors are skeptical of them. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Bidding is over 300 on this fake
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Moderator
United States
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Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Whack-a-mole, realeswatcher. I forgot to note the seller's ID but I think it's the same one (at least they have the same pair of gloves for sale). The batch of phonies liufei84154 is selling now is much lower quality than the last time - obviously cast coins.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Wow, with the same name and everything. ebay is the pits. I wonder if those bids are shill bids to make it seem like a legit coin with collector interest. |
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United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Up to $393 and still going. The winner is going to be very unhappy when they go to resell this one.
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Posted 12/24/2023 09:52 am
