1944 Lincoln Wheat Cent / LWC Regular Clash Plus Floating Clash?

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kurdlezuit Pillar of the Community United States 1034 Posts	Posted 12/30/2023 9:08 pm A lot going on on this coin. I think its a floating clash on the reverse Left side and also a normal clash in the center. Also looks like lifted letters through STATES to AMERICA. Also looks like some clash marks around the 1 in the date. Let me know what you think. The floating clash is new to me. not even sure if that is the right term for it. Edited by kurdlezuit 12/30/2023 9:33 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 12/30/2023 9:25 pm Bit beyond me. Report this Post to the Staff
-makecents- Pillar of the Community United States 8731 Posts	Posted 12/30/2023 9:28 pm The northwest area looks like Feeder Finger Damage, the southcentral area looks like PIDT. I am interested in seeing a nice clear closeup of LIBERTY though, maybe a DDO? -makecents- Report this Post to the Staff
kurdlezuit Pillar of the Community United States 1034 Posts	Posted 12/30/2023 9:31 pm No DDO on this coin. what is PIDT? Report this Post to the Staff
kurdlezuit Pillar of the Community United States 1034 Posts	Posted 12/30/2023 9:43 pm just did a search on here. Ghosting on the center area. I thought so as well, but wasn't sure if Ghosting would have the hair standing out on the head and Beard area. I wasn't sure where the definition border is at on the two. But what about the left wheat area where it is lifted. looks like the Front or Back of lincoln's Jacket that goes through PL in Pluribus? also the lifted letter looking area in STATES to AMERICA. it could be his hair from the Ghosting/Clash I suppose. Edited by kurdlezuit 12/30/2023 9:46 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 73706 Posts	Posted 12/30/2023 9:55 pm I think that what you see in EPU is Feeder Finger Damage. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94795 Posts	Posted 12/30/2023 9:57 pm PIDT? please elaborate on that please - new acronym for me. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
-makecents- Pillar of the Community United States 8731 Posts	Posted 12/30/2023 10:09 pm kurdlezuit, as I stated in the beginning, Feeder Finger Damage in the northwest area. Error Ref refers to it as "Accidental Die Abrasion" LINK https://www.error-ref.com/accidental-die-abrasion/ John, here is a link. https://www.error-ref.com/progressi...gn-transfer/ -makecents- Edited by -makecents- 12/30/2023 10:12 pm Report this Post to the Staff
kurdlezuit Pillar of the Community United States 1034 Posts	Posted 12/31/2023 12:34 pm Ok. Thanks for the info Makecents. I understand the ghosting thing, but that just transfers the outline, not the design correct? I guess what I'm confused on is where is the boundary between a Die clash and Ghosting. I have plenty of clashed obverse wheat cents. Don't know if I've ever seen a reverse Cash to compare. Thanks Report this Post to the Staff
-makecents- Pillar of the Community United States 8731 Posts	Posted 12/31/2023 1:28 pm Quote: Ok. Thanks for the info Makecents. I understand the ghosting thing, but that just transfers the outline, not the design correct? I guess what I'm confused on is where is the boundary between a Die clash and Ghosting. I have plenty of clashed obverse wheat cents. Don't know if I've ever seen a reverse Cash to compare. Thanks I've seen different levels of PIDT but yes, typically the outline is what is mostly seen. There is no boundary between the two, they are totally different die events from totally different causes. The reason I have leaned towards PIDT, is the fact that your coin shows extremely worn dies, both obverse and reverse, which is when you will see the ghosting most apparent. I'm not sure what some of what you are seeing actually is, because it's such a worn die, much of what is going on in the fields is mushy looking. Here is a link of a 1944 Lincoln Cent to check out that has very strong clashing. LINK https://www.maddieclashes.com/adc-1c-1944-01/ -makecents- Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 12/31/2023 2:30 pm I agree with MAKE and also with KURD about Ghosting = PIDT. This coin show a more accetualted PIDT. PIGT stand for Progressive Indirect Die Transfer Edited by silviosi 12/31/2023 2:32 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94795 Posts	Posted 01/01/2024 4:56 pm Quote: PIGT stand for Progressive Indirect Die Transfer Thanks Silvio - I have heard of that (just not the abbreviation) Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 01/01/2024 4:59 pm Sorry I wrote fast PIGT instead of PIDT Report this Post to the Staff
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1944 LWC Regular Clash Plus Floating Clash?