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1893 S Is This Altered Or Fake

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 Posted 01/01/2024  7:18 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add shayez to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
The date is close to liberty neck it looks maybe like an altered 1893p
The best photos I have at the moment sorry to all of you
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 Posted 01/01/2024  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin has all the hallmarks of a counterfeit, it is unfortunately just outright fake. Likely not silver, either.
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 Posted 01/01/2024  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shayez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Can you point me please out some indication
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 Posted 01/01/2024  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DOCC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The angle of your images alters the perspective of how the date actually lays. A straight on shot would be helpful.
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 Posted 01/01/2024  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shayez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry but can't do it at the moment it's the photos I got
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Date position is wrong. All known 1893-s Morgans are far-date - base of the 1 should start past the 3rd denticle. Either altered coin or counterfeit.
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Bump111 has it correct also the overall look is of a cast coin, none of the details are as sharp as a real one would have, after seeing many tens/hundreds of thousands of Morgan dollars over the decades, you will get a feel straight away based on the look of the surfaces, and this one gives off the fake look straight away.

Here is a site that will help you to see the date posisition and mintmark look of real coins:
http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.c...-S_VAM_Stats
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I'm curious what the seller's price is. You can buy these for less than $2 on the Chinese site, or $60 for a silver one, or $179 for one in a PCGS slab with a legit cert#. Buyer beware.
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Agree this is a Chinese counterfeit.
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 Posted 01/01/2024  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shayez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Paid 464 usd with a geranteey to be a genuine not a fake
So my question to the auction house was what is your geranteey on this coin there answer was it is genuine so I am sending it from the auction house directly to ngc to get it graded and if it's a fake I will get my money back
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$464? That coin is over $1000 in AG Details condition, over $2000 in VG Details, and as others have stated, the date position is wrong. Don't wait, get a refund now.
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Look at the porosity in the date numerals. This is a poor cast counterfeit that should fool no-one who has viewed genuine Morgan silver dollars.
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 Posted 01/01/2024  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echidna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree with previous comments.
Its a Chinese fake.
Send it back to the auction house.
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 Posted 01/01/2024  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed, a fake.
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 Posted 01/01/2024  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 91o_collector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The other question would be "what auction house was listing this coin?"
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