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1895 Indian Head - Thoughts On A Grade?

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I bought this at an auction that is graded by a guy that operates out of his parents basement (somewhat kidding but I don't think I am far off)

Anyways - thoughts?


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Not less than AU-58+, perhaps as high as MS- 62/63BN.



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Looks AU-58 to me. Rubbing on the high points.
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I'm at au58 as well.
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MS63RB. Looks like more than 5% red on this one to me.
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AU details, cleaned, obverse scratch
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I'll say AU.
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You guys are all ridiculous and Debbie downer's. This was graded at 65 by NGC, OH. Figured you guys would just low shoot everything and I need conformation of that.
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Is that a scratch or a die crack running from the C in America to the edge?
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You guys are all ridiculous and Debbie downer's

Remember...you have the coin in hand. Your pic shows a slight blue background...it's probably white. We can only grade this with what You show us.

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This was graded at 65 by NGC, OH

I'm not sure what this means?
Good looking coin...
MS-63 but concerned with what looks like a rim bruise a K-4 obverse?
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keep in mind grading by photo is significantly different that in hand. we can't rotate the coin and eliminate glare. I had the coin at MS64BN mainly due to the coin looks like it was handled and oils transferred to surfaces
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First you said it was graded by a guy out of his basement and later you say it was graded by NGC. Which is it? Certainly doesn't look MS-65 from the pics provided. Here is a link to the PCGS photograde for Indian Head cents. You compare.
https://www.pcgs.com/photograde/#/Indian/Grades
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Can you show us the slab ? Both sides.
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It's a bit difficult to tell because the holder reflections somewhat obscure the coin's surface. It does look like an older NGC holder.

Based on the pictures, it looks like there is some slight wear on the high points, which would make it high AU. If it grades MS, I'd guess MS 63 BN.

I know you said it was graded MS-65 BN. The strike seems a bit weaker than some of the other MS-65 Indian Head cents on Heritage Auctions and PCGS Photograde. Again, that might be reflections in the picture.

Either way it's a nice coin!
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Not a coin I would ever pay MS-65 price for. I haven't seen a 100% batting average on any of the TPG coins. That's why you buy the coin and not the holder.
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I'm coming in late, sorry. I'm seeing AU58+, possibly up to MS62--given the images posted.
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