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1804 Liberty Silver Dollar -Real Or Fake

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 Posted 02/15/2024  02:10 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Harry1522 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi

i picked this coin up at a auction. Is it real or fake? Value?

Thank you
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Unfortunately that is an absolute fake. I hope that you didn't pay much for it. Here's a pic of mine that I bought for $3 which was too much.
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100% fake. Hope you did not pay too much.
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I would quit buying at that auction.
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with the above, counterfeit all the way...

I am going to assume that all genuine (and restrike issues) dated 1804 silver dollars are accounted for and in some sort of third-party-grading holders of some kind, which leaves absolutely zero genuine 1804 dollars to be ever found in the wild like that especially from sites like that.

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 Posted 02/15/2024  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Terrible fake.



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 Posted 02/15/2024  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add burfle23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ever consider looking on line for 1804$'s to see images of genuine ones before buying?
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Hope springs eternal burfle23. What tourist could resist these bargains?

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I have a hard time believing that this still happens. It is a multi-million dollar coin in any condition and easy to look it up. I'm not trying to beat up on you, I'm just curious what made you decide to bid on a coin like this.
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Harry1522 - Another counterfeit coin from that auction. Spend your money elsewhere.
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As others have mentioned, there are many, many, many reasons why this is an obvious fake. But as a PSA to others, my first advice is always the same:

Look at the rims --- no draped bust coin can have a raised rim!

The rim is formed by a closed collar strike, which was not introduced until 1827/1828. Tons of fakes have a rim like this, and it is a dead giveaway that it is not genuine. To me, that is always the first test any potential draped bust coin must pass.
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Obvious fake.
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And IndianGoldEagle speaks!
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Well duh.
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Agreed, fake. It's not a very good fake.
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