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I was going through a bag of dateless Buffalo nickels I recently picked up, and came across these. I think they may be the 1913 raised ground one varities, but want some expert opinions please.    Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks Edited by CoinHunter53562
04/14/2009 2:23 pm
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yes, they all to be Ty 1's.
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And you have a couple D mintmarks there. weerdsteev may be here soon enough to help. He knows a lot about no-date Buffalo nickels.  Edited by TNG
04/14/2009 6:47 pm
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Cool....thanks guys. I guess I never actively looked through my no date Buffs other than pulling out the mintmark ones (and had them up for sale here a couple of months ago but no takers). Any idea what the going rate would be for these roughly?
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PM weerdsteev .... he would probably restore the dates if he had these, even though you already know by the design on the reverse that these are type 1.
I did restore 1 roll myself and about 30 of the 40 coins came up with a readable date. I would say these are at AG2 to AG3 grade at this point. Whether they can become more valuable using the method he uses or what I used, ( a couple weeks soaking in distilled vinegar )
I don't know?
I think either way they will still be valued at best at maybe G4 restored or less anyway.
It's amazing how I got the horn to come back out too using the vinegar but they seem very flat colored and dull grey afterwards.
I did get 3 lesser semi keys out of my batch. But I forget what they are.
If I were you and this may be a right choice for you, I would go back and get all the no-dates out of that dealers junk box if the price is right.
You might have a little fun and some luck with them.
I don't condone doing it but the risk seems minimal at the point of wear these are showing anyway.
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Good news: These are definitely 1913 Type I nickels. Bad news: Even obvious Type I 1913 Buffalo nickels with no mint mark are not worth too much, unfortunately. I would guess around $1.00 - 2.00 apiece. Sorry, my brother! Still a cool find! Any Buffalo nickel is cool! |
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If I were you and this may be a right choice for you, I would go back and get all the no-dates out of that dealers junk box if the price is right.
You might have a little fun and some luck with them. I was thinking the same thing. This dealer specializes in error coins, so they may have been looking for dateless 3-legged Buffalos, and the 1935 DDR for starters and overlooked these. Edited by CoinHunter53562
04/14/2009 10:27 pm
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Yeah but top right is definitely a D
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I might try the distilled vinegar method. These are already pretty worn anyway, and I paid very little for them, so what the heck right? With that said, is distilled vinegar sold that way, or do I have to buy regular vinegar and do something to it to make it distilled?
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If it just says Vinegar, white vinegar, or distilled vinegar, it's distilled. Other types are cider vinegar, wine vinegar, malt vinegar etc. All of these other simply relate to what the vinegar was created from and it hasn't been distilled so some of the flavoring is passed along when they are used for cooking or other food preparation.
Any of the vinegars will work for restoring the dates. If the bottles state the acetic acid level (typically 5%) higher levels will work faster.
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04/15/2009 09:39 am
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It took a couple weeks for some of mine, make sure you put a lid over it or the house will stink up pretty good.
Please follow up on what you find.
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Coins #2 (top photo right) and #3 (2nd photo left) are 13D T1. All are T1 coins. Since T1 coibns can be identified by the raised mound on the reverse as being 1913, I do not see the point in restoring them, since it is already known they are 1913. Better to leave them as is.
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I do not see the point in restoring them, since it is already known they are 1913. Better to leave them as is. That's the dilemna I am wrestling with right now. I might go ahead and do one P and one D, and leave the rest alone, but I havent fully decided yet. |
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When I did a few in vinegar, they brought most of the dates out (barely) but it gave the nickels a very flat look, and a rough, dry feeling to the touch. If you have some more that are not known 1913s I would try it with those first. If you don't mind how they look afterwards, then do all of them.
There's some stuff, you probably already know, called nic-a-date, that's supposed to work a lot better than vinegar, but I've never used it.
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I think they may be the 1913 raised ground one varieties, but want some expert opinions please.
If the denomination is gone, you can count on it being a Type 1 because that was the whole purpose of taking the denomination off the mound- so it did not wear away. Too bad they didn't make the same modification to the date, then maybe there would not be so many dateless Buffaloes floating around with who-knows-what rare variety lost to the ages  |
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I wonder how I missed this post for so long....? Anyway, take a real hard look at the nickel on the left in the 3rd set of photos...the one with the scratch running through it from 10 o'clock to 5 o'clock. Click the photo to enlarge it. Is that a very faint "S" mint mark down there...?
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