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The 1799 large cent referred to in the locked post (I believe for no images) was removed prior to a sale.  Seller had good images of the obverse and reverse, but a bleary image of the edge. He did provide a couple more low res images of the edge which to my eyes appear to show a seam.  To me this one had the look of an electro, and the seller stated it was from a "Museum collection". My 1st thought was museums have electros on display for many of the rarer/ more valuable coins... With that in mind we looked for possible source coins, and found the ex- Ellsworth example to be a match:   Seller wasn't interested in an offer to sell as an electro; no telling where or when this one will show up again. Edited by burfle23
02/17/2024 11:45 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thanks for this!  |
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"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
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Good information on the tells of this electrotype. Where would you put the value on this electrotype fake?
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It was apparently removed by ebay, not ended by seller. Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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Yes, it was removed by ebay; seller continued to argue to the end... I would have paid $250-300 for it as an electro and offered that. |
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Why would you pay that much for a known counterfeit? Is there something special about it? Just curious.
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Electrotypes are an important part of coin collection history. It's quite possible the ebay seller here is correct that this piece did come from an actual museum collection. They are collectible and the offer of $300 was a fair one. |
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Great sleuthing burfle23!
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Thanks for the tell mark education you provide burfle23.
I've used it to match marks seen on seller slab photos to marks on the NGC and PCGS archival photos for the same certification number. Not to prove that the coin is fraudulent, but to verify that it is authentic. It would be very difficult to match patterns of polishing scratches and nicks on a replica.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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02/18/2024 1:26 pm
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Very interesting! |
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Pillar of the Community
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Very interesting, thanks, burfle23!
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Agreed 100% an electrotype. I was actually the person who requested the edge pics, after the seller added them I ran for the hills. It's a shame that it wasn't genuine, it would have been a nice upgrade to my current S-189.
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Definitely not worth $4k.
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What drew my attention, as far as bidding and before further examination as to authenticity, was an image of the coin in bare hands. Seeing these types of listings I simply move on no matter the price. Clowns like this often ask upper end market prices and can not at least appear professional.  ANA member - PAN Member - BCCS Member There are no problems only solutions - the late, great John Lennon
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02/25/2024 09:09 am
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Edited by burfle23
02/25/2024 10:08 pm
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