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Valued Member
Canada
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PCCS is back, my understanding is they were being sold out of the angus coin shop for a while before they removed them all from the website. Now they're back, with their own ebay account. 2 negative feedback both with the response to negative feedback as something along the lines of "thank you for the red dot, we love red dots, that's Canadas colour" What a horrendous move for the hobby.   |
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Is there any way to remove them from commerce? I don't think that they even know how to spell the word "professional", which is the "P" in their PCCS ID.
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02/19/2024 4:26 pm
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Moderator
 United States
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Yikes!   |
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Valued Member
United States
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Can someone give me the backstory here? Since I don't see a reason to get bent out of shape over this low-rent nonsense of a coin "grader," I feel like there's something I don't know that several of you do.
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Valued Member
 Canada
201 Posts |
^ they've taken the same packaging as ICCS, colours, ect, created a certification label that exactly resembles ICCS. Text, style. Etc.
This company's sole purpose seems to be to trick unsuspecting buyers into thinking they're buying certified coins from a reputable company.
While I agree, you should buy the coin not the holder, it seems to be a blatant attempt to scam unsuspecting collectors.
CCCS has blue certificates, ICCS has yellow. This company could have chosen any colour, white, orange ect. They could have styled the cert differently than CCCS did. They could have different packaging like CCCS did.
Instead they copied every single feature on the ICCS slab
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New Member
Canada
49 Posts |
Colonial Acres is handling these as part of their online auctions. Nothing wrong with it just buyer beware.
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United States
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Their one remaining listing is just an advertisement. 1666067411531999P Small cent, icollector Auction March 17Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Somehow, I don't think that the ICollector auction is going to bring rain. They say $600 for the '99 penny and, on the page scrolling down, you have 2 proof '99's for $1.50 and $2.50 US You'd get lots of change back from a 5 dollar bill.
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Valued Member
Canada
201 Posts |
Thanks to anyone who got the PCCS slabs taken down, however the seller is now relisting them. As was thought he would.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1984 Posts |
I have no problem here. Everyone starts somewhere. Why can't someone start a coin grading business and try to make it? Maybe they are stricter than ICCS or CCCS. Or not. At $15+ a slab, you will never want to put coins like these in ICCS slabs. I think they are filling a market niche for affordable slabs.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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They are welcome to grade however and whatever they want. The market will determine if they survive. However if they wish to sell on ebay they must abide by the rules like the rest of us. They repeatedly flaunt the rules, are removed, and then sneak back in while still ignoring the rules, "Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Valued Member
Canada
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Smallcentguy, it has nothing to do with them filling a niche. They seem to be intentionally trying to rip people off by copying ICCS. Their certificate colour, and format is the same. They use the same packaging. 75% of their name is copied from ICCS CCCS did it, but they used blue certificates and created their own format. ICCS has been around since the 80s and it has nothing to do with the reputation, whether they're classified as strict or lenient, to the unsuspecting collector, it seems to be a scam. Also the fact that it goes against ebay policy to sell TPG coins from non-approved companies. If a billion dollar corp. has an issue with basement slabbers, there's obviously a bigger problem going on behind the scenes. ebay lets counterfeits slide daily, but doesn't hesitate to remove coins from TPG companies that aren't known of origin. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I agree their choice of slab is a bit sneaky. But the looks like it is probably a legitimate MS65. ebay has a number of annoying policies...for many years ICCS was not an accepted slabber. If you are not allowed to list coins from a new slabber on ebay, you are then more or less saying that the existing slabbers should have a monopoly in perpetuity? If no one else can put a listed slab up that is in essence what you are saying. I would say CCCS and PCCS are equally credible graders. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I believe ebay has a policy where only certain grading services are acceptable: https://www.ebay.com/help/buying/pa...ices?id=4659The policy is controversial because it precludes certain popular services like BCS for Canadian banknotes. (I once had a listing removed because it was slabbed by BCS). But on the flip side it does protect inexperienced buyers from basement enterprises like PCCS. |
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