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1896 $1 Educational Silver Cert - Need Comments - Bidding On This One

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 Posted 03/22/2024  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great comments, all, and much appreciated. Think I'll let this one pass by, although it is still tempting with a 30 day return. That said, the photoshop comments ring true to me, especially with documented sales at VF20. Darned hard to evaluate from pictures - impossible even. I like Steve in Tampa's technique of side lighting. Reveals a lot.
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 Posted 03/24/2024  09:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sold for over $1500, but not to me. Sold to a person with 177 transactions, so probably not a dealer. Thanks for all the comments.
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 Posted 03/24/2024  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know the seller. Based on my experiences I wouldn't buy from him even a graded note.
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 Posted 03/24/2024  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well that's quite a statement!
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 Posted 03/24/2024  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadDog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I know the seller. Based on my experiences I wouldn't buy from him even a graded note.


Why? Any details?

I've purchased a couple of PMG graded notes from High Grade Rarities on ebay via auction in the past (but not for over a year). Both were as described and I had no problems/issues with the seller, BUT maybe their business model has changed. I see that they currently have no PMG graded notes listed, only about 5% of their listed sales were graded and they haven't sold a graded note since early Jan 2024.

At the same time, I wouldn't buy a raw note in this price range, from this, or any other seller. The seller, particularly a large scale dealer, has to know that a graded note would attract more buyers and likely higher bids that would more than make up for the cost of grading the note. If it hasn't been graded, then I wonder why not and stay away.
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 Posted 03/24/2024  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm with Helder on this one.
I don't have a particular reason other than I just don't like the guy. He was a member on a different forum, and we didn't get along.
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 Posted 03/24/2024  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He made comments that just turned me off. I won't buy from him no matter the note.
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 Posted 03/24/2024  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A most controversial seller indeed, despite a masssive favorable rating on ebay.
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 Posted 03/24/2024  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t25135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tbh, my opinion is that seller ratings on ebay offer a false sense of security to buyers. I would be interested to have seen what that $1 edu looked like in the sale from 4 months ago.
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 Posted 03/24/2024  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t25135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's another sale from the same seller that also closed tonight. Notice the difference in the pic from that sale versus the prior ebay sale last year. Another example of the potential pitfalls of buying raw that people who are unaware can fall into. The seal and serial numbers became a lot more vibrant and the tears at the top disappeared.



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 Posted 03/25/2024  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The seal and serial numbers became a lot more vibrant and the tears at the top disappeared.

It's a miracle! It's magic! It's....photoshop!
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 Posted 03/25/2024  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t25135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would hope for the buyer's sake that the tears not being visibly present in the latest photos is a reflection of actual repair work that has been done rather than liberal use of photoshop editing.
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 Posted 03/25/2024  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is one of the reasons you should buy this note graded (my note).

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