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I had a beautiful PMG64 EPQ of this issue, but had to sell it some years ago. Always regretted that, but had no choice. Anyway, this looks like a nice ungraded example. I know it's darned near impossible to grade from pictures like this, but what are the thoughts out there in noteland?   Edited by Blastenpene4
03/20/2024 1:52 pm
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Well there's one for sale on The Bay in the same condition for $4,190. Don't know if that helps at all.
...Oops misread the post. At the value of this bill in higher grades I personally wouldn't mess with an ungraded version in case it was altered.
Edited by Papadoc75
03/21/2024 07:46 am
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I'd hate to tell you what I sold my 64EPQ for; you'd cry. Bought it raw back in the mid 90's for $750.
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This is an expensive note that I would be leery buying raw. It could have been processed or washed or pressed. From a picture really hard to tell. If I had it in hand different story. My most expensive Raw note purchased from just pictures was 400 euros, I wouldn't buy over $500 any raw note from just a picture.
Edited by hfjacinto
03/20/2024 2:25 pm
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Is that a crease or a fiber above Washington's head?
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I think it's a crease. Believe this to be an AU note.
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Bedrock of the Community
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What's his rep? Return privileges? Will he send you a side scan?
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30 day return. Over 30,000 transactions. 100% rating. This will pass my high bid.
Edited by Blastenpene4
03/20/2024 5:39 pm
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Like Helder mentions, notes like these are typically best bought already graded or at least in person so you can examine it.
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Definitely a fan favoritre.
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Definitely a fan favoritre. Yes, Home Schooling is especially popular today!  |
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I know that T&P does have some data issues from time to time but here is what comes up for the history on that note:  I do find it hard to believe that this note was ever a 20 in anyone's opinion. If so then whomever doctored the note and/or pics is a wizard. |
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If this was washed and pressed, it can look better than a 20. Look at the red seal, its faded. This note could have been doctored.
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I agree with the above but I would have thought that as a formerly graded 20 that the folds would have been heavy and numerous enough that you would still be able to notice evidence of them going through the design without much difficulty even after the wash and press job.
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I agree with the above but I would have thought that as a formerly graded 20 that the folds would have been heavy and numerous enough that you would still be able to notice evidence of them going through the design without much difficulty even after the wash and press job. My coin shop had a raw bison note that looked like it was washed and pressed. The folds were there but almost non existent. The dealer thought it would grade XF40 even with the doctoring and I was like I would say VF. The color fade was the issue. And the Bison note red was faded and not really vibrant, but I didn't think it would get below VF30, it came back VF25 (no comments). So a VF20 could get better but the above note looks much better than XF so I'm wondering if the picture isn't also photoshopped a little. |
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What I have noticed several times now with buying notes from pictures, even on "reputable" auction websites, is that the photographs more often than not are "color-saturated". Meaning, they look much more vibrant on the photograph than in reality.
As a result, I no longer buy online. It is either: examine in-hand, or no deal.
Regarding the note shown in the first post, there is absolutely no way I believe the note shown is actually in such a vibrant condition after 130 years. For starters, the serial number ink is much tooo blue. It looks like someone penciled it in recently. The dark green color of the reverse is also too good to be true.
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03/21/2024 10:19 am
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