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1822 Capped Bust Quarter (Not My Coin)

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I am curious what you all think of this quarter. PCGS surprised me with what they called it, but I won't specify whether I think PCGS was too harsh or too generous. Again, this is not my coin. This one is just for grading fun.


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Obverse shows a little strike weakness of the hair details and the stars but the bust area and bow are sharp. Original mint luster appears missing and it has the look of a dipped surface. The reverse has flatness from wear on the eagles wing feathers and talons. Reverse also lacks original luster and looks like it had an old dipping which has re-toned a bit. From these pics I'm going to call it AU - details, dipped. Also there seems to be something going on with the odd shape and spacing of the denticles on the reverse between K6 and K7. This coin looks like a match for the 1822 25 over 50 which is a high dollar rare coin.
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I'll say AU-55 straight.
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Appears a little wiped out, net 53.
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I'll say AU-55.
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MS64 is what I'll guess PCGS called it.
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MS64 is what I'll guess PCGS called it.


Eek, you may be right! I could see a crazy person calling this uncirculated.
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It's an AU coin lower to mid grade 53-55 range IMO.

I bet PCGS called it Mint State MS62/63). Should it also be a details coin due to the obverse digs/scratches in the field in front of the portrait? I can't say for sure without an in hand look, but quite possibly. I pretty much agree with MisterT's assessment.
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AU details, cleaned.
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Certainly no less than AU. I'm at AU55.

I don't think they details it for the scratches left of the bust, but you never know, and we're grading from TrueView, after all...
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first thought was AU55 but I can see it in an MS62 slab but these are TV photos
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I thought this one was a bit cleaned, although I've seen worse. I am glad that PCGS called it AU(55), as MS anything seems inappropriate on this one. The marks on the left side of the obverse field show up in the True View, but not so much in person. Mr. T found the 25/50 feature that indeed makes this coin quite scarce. I wish it was mine, but sadly it's not.


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Wow, PCGS has this at a $60,000 coin!
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It's a very scarce and desirable coin. I'd be quite thrilled to have one in my collection!
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didnt even notice the denomination.
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didnt even notice the denomination.


Me either, and that is a BIG mistake, need to look at the coin a lot closer, I didn't even read the other comments, as I usually don't in grading threads, until after the grade is revealed. I totally missed the 25 over 50 denomination and MisterT's astute call on that. I still think the coin might deserve details? But would need to see in hand as to how bad those digs are, it is a super rare variety for the series.

The digs don't show up so much on the full slab photo, so maybe they aren't all that bad.
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