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1955 10c Doubled Die Obverse PCGS Attributed And Graded MS-65

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It has been a while since I have posted a topic here so I thought members would like this one for a good read.

After publishing my book about Modern Canadian doubled die varieties a few months ago, I decided to send off the example featured on Pages 82-83 to PCGS and see what they had to say.

As most know, I am very passionate (and confident) in my assessments when it comes to doubled die varieties, so having one of the top grading companies agree with my assessment and attribute accordingly, is a breath of fresh air that I think Canadian variety collectors needed.

To date, this is the only known example to exist, for now.

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1955-10c-Doubled-Die-Obverse-PCGS-Attributed-And-Graded-MS-65

Side note, the population report is referring to 18 examples of the 1955 10C being graded as MS65, they are not referring to the doubled die variety.
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 Posted 04/04/2024  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats!

I checked out the true view.

https://www.pcgs.com/cert/49211816

There is a fair bit of "chatter" in the photo. Where should I focus on?
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There is a fair bit of "chatter" in the photo. Where should I focus on?


you want to look at ELIZABETH II and the ends of the Ribbons in her hair, I was hoping the TrueViews would come out clearer but the lighting they used washes out most of the details.

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The top serif on the second E and T of ELIZABETH are pretty easy markers.

Congrats on doing this. It might seem like a small thing to some collectors, but from my own experience, it's neither an easy nor small feat.

Doubled dies are a big deal with US coins, but Canada still has a long way to go!
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Congrats. Maybe I have not been paying attention, but I have never seen PCGS label a hold as "Minor Variety." There are American DD less significant than that they do not label as such.
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Just for reference, how much extra did it cost to get the variety recognized?
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I have never seen PCGS label a hold as "Minor Variety." There are American DD less significant than that they do not label as such.

Bosox, They have been putting it on the holder since sometime before 2012 for some examples, like this one.

(not my coin, just found it the other day while googling)

https://www.pcgs.com/cert/45644171
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Just for reference, how much extra did it cost to get the variety recognized?

okiecoiner,
The cost was $20.00 USD for the Variety Attribution service, so roughly $28.00 CAD on top of the grading and TrueView fees.
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Wow! I had thought that it was much more than that. Nice coin
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Congrats. Yes, "Minor Variety" is a new one for me as well.
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After digging around to find more info on the "Minor Variety" on the label, not that it personally makes much of a difference to me, however, it is there to clarify that there is a die variety present, but it will need at least 5x magnification to see.

The quote below was from the PCGS website and can be found on the bottom of this link. https://www.pcgs.com/news/coin-vari...remely-minor
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Some coins are considered major varieties and as a rule of thumb, you should be able to see them with the naked eye. Minor varieties are usually a bit harder to see but with a five-power glass, you should be able to spot them.

Graded examples of Canadian doubled die varieties are almost nonexistent to begin with, so this is still a very big win for Canadian variety collectors, with all doubled die varieties, you need some form of magnification, and 5x is more than acceptible.
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Excellent coin, Its going to be a joint effort from everyone to find these DDs and get them documented.
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It's going to be a joint effort from everyone to find these DDs and get them documented.


I agree, we still have a long way to go and I will continue to document and publish doubled die varieties for the benefit of future variety collectors, even if I have to pave the way one slab at a time.

Doubled die varieties that I think will grade MS63+, I will consider sending them to be graded and attributed, one of the main reasons I sent in the 1955 10C was because I thought it might have a shot at MS66.

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Congratulations on the payoff for your efforts. It's a pretty big deal to get a coin variety attributed with a major grading company. Maybe some day soon they will be attributing Canadian varieties by referencing your book, the same way U.S. coins receive Fivaz-Stanton numbers from the Cherrypicker's Guide.
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Very nice, congratulations! Nice DDO!
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Very nice find and congrats on all the work that you do.
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