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Why Do They Waste Everybody's Time?

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I just looked at several hundred ebay auctions that are about to close. Only one of them had a bid! The sellers wasted their time by having too high of a minimum bid. I wasted my time by looking at all these auctions. It would be much better if they listed these items as "Buy it Nows" with their excessive asking price - NOT auctions.

And offering $3 coins with $12 shipping is not helping either. I wish ebay would charge a fee for auctions that never get a bid. Would cut down on all the wasted time.
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The endless amount of error coin listings, that aren't errors.... I find quite irritating. Sellers should have to pass a knowledge-test before they're allowed to sell on ebay.
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I wish ebay would charge a fee for auctions that never get a bid.
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Way too much dross on ebay and you're right, sellers wanting premium amounts for cleaned/damaged/fake coins.
Best to follow a few really good sellers that won't let you down.
I've been using MAshops a lot more. All the sellers there are vetted and the prices are reasonable. Sometimes shipping can be pricey, but not always. My latest trawl from them is a Magdalen Island token!!!
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That may cut down on the amount of coin put up for auction - but it would also cut into their revenues too.
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MA Shops is an advertiser here on CCF. Click on the logo and I think CCF makes a couple cents each time.
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Simple, they are phishing and hoping some dummy buys. It costs nothing to phish since ebay dropped their listing fees. DUMB, junk listings are the consequence.
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It's a market place--warts and all....

We have many ebay sellers within our community--wonder how they feel?
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sellers wanting premium amounts for cleaned/damaged/fake coins.


i see this all the time. preying on uneducated collectors, many who are new to the hobby, and someday down the road they are going to take a fairly large loss on their purchases. yes there is stupid tax that everyone has paid at some point but I just bite my tongue when I see people overbidding on garbage coins because they can't determine what a details coin looks like and the seller does not note anything in their descriptions. I guess its buyer beware but this is definitely a pet peeve of mine.
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There is a limit to how many free listings you can get per month, at least at my ebay seller level which is "lesser peon".
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The answer to the OP's question...

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Why Do They Waste Everybody's Time?

... is the same answer to questions like "why do spammers and scammers waste our time when they send out so many bogus e-mails, texts, Facebook friend requests, etc?"

And that answer is, "because sometimes, it works". And when it works, they score big.

For any one particular person who looks at the listing there's a very small chance of success, but it's mass-marketed to a broad audience and as you've pointed out, there's near-zero cost for this mass-marketing. Especially if they're getting a bot to do the listing-making for them. The odds of them eventually making a profit are very good - which is why it keeps happening.
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I find the $1 listings with $5 shipping to be annoying. We all know they are going to send the coin with ebay shipping and pocket the extra four bucks.

I don't mind the sea of auctions with 0 bids. Because they relist automatically, it's the same thing as a Buy It Now with a timer. Many listings allow you to Make An Offer.

Mostly what ticks me off is the listings with gorgeous stock photos, and that fact is buried in the text block or never mentioned at all. You can waste a few minutes evaluating a coin without even realizing that it's a decoy. That goes quadruple for listings where the stock photo is deliberately of an unattributed rare variety, which they surely do on purpose to hook careless cherry pickers (sort of a reverse cherry pick, I guess).

I find it annoying when people take bad photos, particularly of slabbed coins, but that's their loss of business and not really my problem.
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If you're talking about the seller's selling junk coins, it's because they want to make a quick buck, or they just don't know any better.
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i see this all the time. preying on uneducated collectors, many who are new to the hobby, and someday down the road they are going to take a fairly large loss on their purchases. yes there is stupid tax that everyone has paid at some point but I just bite my tongue when I see people overbidding on garbage coins because they can't determine what a details coin looks like and the seller does not note anything in their descriptions. I guess its buyer beware but this is definitely a pet peeve of mine.


Well for whats its worth this forum is saving alot of newbies from bad buys
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or they just don't know any better.

or just plain don't care about ripping the under educated collectors that are just starting this hobby.
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If I remember correctly, a long time ago ebay used to charge a fee for listing. If the item sold it was refunded.
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