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Theoderic, Quarter Siliqua Die Match?

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 Posted 05/01/2024  8:23 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add travelcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hoping to get some opinions on this. Came across a rare Quarter Siliqua and while doing some research, I believe I found a die match that was sold at CNG auctions. Sometimes die matches are a good thing, but most of the times it usually spells trouble. Any thoughts?

GEPIDS. Uncertain king. 454-552. AR Quarter Siliqua (16mm, 0.83 g, 6h). Imitating a Ravenna mint Quarter Siliqua of Theoderic in the name of Anastasius I. Sirmium mint. Pearl-diademed, draped, and cuirassed bust right / Theoderic monogram.

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 Posted 05/02/2024  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It appears to be a double die match. Die matches are more common on lower mintage issues. A die match to a CNG coin is probably a good thing.
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 Posted 05/02/2024  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add samoth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Regarding the die, the defect in front of the eye is likely diagnostic.

I don't like the second one, personally. The color's off, it's way too symmetric/round, the front has porosity that doesn't match the reverse, and I question whether the flan defect at K5-6 of the obverse is part of the die. Also, the rim mark over V on the reverse appears to be a flan spur, which shouldn't exist on the second coin.

It just doesn't look right to me. Note, however, that I don't specialize in these.

I'd love to hear others' opinions -- especially if anyone collects this type or century.
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 Posted 05/02/2024  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I don't like the second one, personally. The color's off, it's way too symmetric/round, the front has porosity that doesn't match the reverse, and I question whether the flan defect at K5-6 of the obverse is part of the die.
on everything except the porosity (which I can't see) but I'm even less of an expert on this than you are.
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 Posted 05/03/2024  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add travelcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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. A die match to a CNG coin is probably a good thing.



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...the rim mark over V on the reverse appears to be a flan spur
Yes it does, but when I look closer it looks like a flan defect or some type environmental damage that runs along the edge.
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