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"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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1476 double briquet of the Duchy of Brabant (I think this is our 8th double briquet ... three more years years to catch up to the Pomerania type):   |
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And here is it's sibling. Nice to be in such good company!   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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(I think this is our 8th double briquet... We can never have enough briquets!  |
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ttkoo you might want to double check this coin. GG doesn't list a half tanka during this time.
I think your coin is a falus of Ibrahim Shah dated 82x (GG# J8) that has been silvered. I have a couple with similar silver appearance that were listed as "half tanka" when I purchased them. I assume that the seller misidentified them because they appeared silver and were about half the weight of a tanka.
I'm leaning towards 824 as the date. I am tending to agree with you at this stage about the date. The style of coin, especially the style of the word 'sultani', does lean towards a falus. The issue with this though, is that at 18mm and 9.5 grams, it is twice as heavy as the usual falus of that era and around 4mm larger. Almost like a falus struck on a tanka blank. I have opened it up on another forum and am hoping for some definitive explanations. But back to the walk-back with dated coins 1475 / AH880 Jaunpur billon tanka DR 2737, GG J27 , N 38508  The Ox moves slowly, but the Earth is patient.
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11/05/2024 11:30 am
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My last double briquet, 1475, Duchy of Brabant:   |
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Fantastic examples!  |
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The year 1475 seems to have been a bumper crop year for dated European coins, at the very least from a survivorship standpoint. As evidence of this, there are eight of them for sale at ma-shops right now. I'll have to dig into my Levinson to see if there is a specific reason. For now, here is a sibling to @tdz's coin for today:   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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@bd251
Further to the "half tanka".
I received this reply from @THC, a member of another forum.
" I would agree with your assertion. If this is supposed to be J08 it should weigh around 4.5 grams.
If it is double that it is either a double AE falus or a Billon tanka of 80 rati.
But both are not in Goron and Goenka catalog with this legend.
The silvering is clearly modern and I would consider it annoying, especially in this case.
However, looking at the side in your second photo, there clearly is "abu 'l-fath", and that seems reserved for the copper specimen. So I would consider this a silvered double falus."
I think what this really highlights is that I need to purchase a copy of the G&G catalogue, or I will continue to fly blind as I chase down these Indian Islamic coins.
edit: I managed to track down a new hardcover copy of the 2021 edition, USD75 + post + GST (which is not too bad considering the ridiculous prices being asked at some outlets). Delivery expected 21 December. It will make a fine Christmas read I'm sure.
The Ox moves slowly, but the Earth is patient.
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For now, here is a sibling to @tdz's coin for today: Excellent! |
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Interesting to read your update @ttk. Here is a Spitzgroschen from Saxony dated 1475. This was one of my first dated 15th Century coins.   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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Here is a Spitzgroschen from Saxony dated 1475. This was one of my first dated 15th Century coins. Nice example with some circulation cameo! |
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"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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Yes nice toning on that, which at least partially offsets those ugly scratches on the obv. True. I did not really notice them.  Quote:
Here are a pair of 1475-dated coins from Cleve. The first is a Half Groschen (1.1 g and 21 mm) and the second is a Groschen (1.9 g and 24 mm). Nice examples! |
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