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1861 Three Cent Silver - You Vs. CACG

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The latest addition to my 7070 is this 1861 Three Cent Silver graded by CACG. Thoughts on the grade?
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XF-40
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To me, EF details (ED).
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I'm leaning towards straight grade VF35 - but pictures are tough to grade from.
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Sorry, but I am not a fan of this coin.
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Looking closer at the reverse, I concur with Mr. Coinfrog about the environmental damage.
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I'm not sure if Environmental Damage - or just toning that looks that way from the poor picture quality. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and went with toning.
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VF details Environmental Damage
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AU-53

Not a fan of CACG, they are way too inconsistent.
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CAC made a major mistake venturing into the grading field. They've failed to distinguish between their two business models - no one is sure anymore about the difference between CAC and CACG. Does my CACG holder mean that it carries an implicit CAC sticker? Unbelievable marketing misjudgment. I don't think CACG will survive, and if CAC had any sense, they'd jettison it before their brand image is damaged further.
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I'll guess AU-53.
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Not clear if that is toning or environmental damage.

I'm going XF details damaged.


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and if CAC had any sense, they'd jettison it before their brand image is damaged further.


I agree with Mr. Frog on this point.
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Full rims, not full shield, looks like XF detail to me. I would guess Environmental Damage as well. Still a nice add to the 7070.
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very much a challenge to see through the "toning" on this one. the buttons on the reverse are key to determining wear on these and its almost impossible to see the tops of them. I'm going to go with AU50 good shot at 53. the eye appeal is very poor on this one. the unknown here is if what we are seeing is corrosion or just toning from improper storage. I'm having a hard time seeing if there is any metal corrosion present so I'm going with improperly stored. taking that into consideration what would say PCGS say about this one? details( PMD) or straight?
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AU details, environmental damage.
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Give us your thoughts on the appeal here.
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