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Above title says it all. I am just trying to get a proper and current value and also figure out the correct name for what type of doubling is present on this coin
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malissa Edited by malissadawn
05/03/2009 6:27 pm
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Check out this siteThe list the 1860 in UNC for £150  |
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hmmmm I never would have thought to call it a 3 halfpence. no wonder I couldn't find it on there. thank you!
Maybe I should try to get mine photographed and graded. lol
I guess we will be seeing this one again somewhere else in the forum
thanks again
malissa
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Well, once I took pictures and enlarged the coin to 100 times it's size. it looks different to me now. All the surface marks were almost invisible even under magnification, then when I Put magnifier and camera zoom to max together I got the pictures below. I never even noticed the doubling with it in hand. Just so everyone knows what size we are talking about here I am also posting a picture that shows the coins size compared to a regular canadian dime. It's like a baby coin!    im going to try to get some images of the doubling. It is quite impressive! Now if my hands will just hold steady Edited by malissadawn
05/03/2009 04:54 am
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Edited by malissadawn
05/03/2009 05:27 am
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Those are some amazing close up pics. You have extremely steady hands malissadawn!
The eight doesn't look doubled to me, it looks like it has been over struck. But I don't know much about these things.
I like this little coin a lot.
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Thanks Quicksilver!! I really like it too! I think a lot of the close up shows things struck twice. But I dont know the proper terminology for it.
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malissadawn, this is from the 2007 Rotographic. Quote:
These tiny coins were issued for use in some colonies, and were never legal tender in the UK. They are included here because, like the fractional farthings, they are at the very least relatives of the normal British Coinage, and they do bear the latin word 'Brittanniar' (Britain). Very nice doubling on that coin. Die crack at the 3 o'clock it looks. Can't tell if it's a repunched date or a repunched die. It's almost as if they used a die with a smaller 8 and then didn't like it so they punched it again with a die with a larger 8? Nothing in the Rotographic about it unfortunately. It's a really nice coin. .925 fine Silver 12mm Weight 0.7gEdited by Irishraider
05/03/2009 09:24 am
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this is from the 2007 Rotographic. Im sorry but I am unfamiliar with that term. Is that a book? Are there any books or sites I can visit for more information about this type of coin? Maybe even somewhere with mintage estimates? |
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malissa, yep, it's a book specifically geared toward British coins. Here is the website I go to when I need most things British as far as coins go. It's a great site. http://www.predecimal.com/Rotographic is kind of like the Red Book for american coins. Mine is a 2007 and they have the 2009 out now but I just don't have any way to get one since my paypal account is kind of goobered due to some bank account problems. This is a link to the book itself. http://www.predecimal.com/collector...-p-7872.htmlMaybe the guys in the forum there might be able to shed more light on the punching of the date. Edited by Irishraider
05/03/2009 1:43 pm
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How interesting...there's a lot going on this coin!  While I don't know enough about UK coins to say for sure, it looks like the date was repunched to me. I say that because the date is often added to dies, and when a date is corrected by a second repunching, the die is often cleaned up by polishing away the old date. This is why repunched dates often appear protected inside the digits. I see this on US and Europe coins from this period. |
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Because I do not kow what type of die manufacture they went through at that time in the British Mint, I cannot say for sure what kind of doubling shows on the letters on the obverse of this coin. It does appear to be hub doubling, but some of the letters are not doubled at all, which is confusing to me and my understanding of minting coins.
The date on the other side is definitely repunched - looks like large numerals over small numerals, but again this is a guess based on all the coins I've seen in the past, not with any knowledge of 19th century British coinage. I hope this helps at least a little.
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thanks for the opinions and interest everyone! I really like this coin a little more each time I come back in and look at the pictures. I only wish my hands could be just a bit more steady for the pictures. It may be time for me to find some type of microscope that takes pictures or something if I am going to keep buying these kinds of things. :)
thanks again
malissa
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You might also find this interesting. I have an 1848 Half-Farthing with a repunching in the "N" of Regina, the E/N variety. After studying a few different coins of this year, I concluded that each letter was punched individually--they're at different angles and positions by die pair. I'm not sure the same holds true for your coin, but it might explain things.  |
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hmmmm that one is interesting too. I didnt realize they do one letter at a time. that must have been very time consuming!
I have an 18? third or quarter farthing (i cant remember which it is) I'm going to find it now and see if the lettering is done that way as well.
How did you get that close to the letter without all the blurring in your pic like I have?
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