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1930-D Lincoln Wheat Cent Doubling

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 Posted 05/05/2009  8:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add eddiespin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all. Can see that Mechanical Doubling on that date. Just wondering what y'all want to call that other stuff (nostril, lips, tie). Just don't look like no random violence to me (more like something deliberative). Thanks.

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 Posted 05/05/2009  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockdude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well eddiespin to this forum, as you may already know Machine Doubling can look like that and a deteriorating die also.
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 Posted 05/05/2009  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eddiespin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Dude! Been here a couple years, actually (around that), just ain't said too much. Lookin' for more opinions on this one (ya caught me, pal, ya caught me :D).

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 Posted 05/06/2009  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
'machine' doubling - not 'mechanical' doubling...and yes, that's what you have.
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 Posted 05/06/2009  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eddiespin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On that date and mint mark, I agree. But you're saying, also, under the nose, on the lips, and under the tie, as well. Just want to nail that down. It's a yes or no question, Copper. Thanks.
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 Posted 05/07/2009  04:56 am  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you provide sharper pictures? These are blurry. Thanks.
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 Posted 05/08/2009  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can't answer that - only the image of the date and mintmark is clear enough to tell anything.
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 Posted 05/09/2009  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eddiespin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Copper thanks for clarifying. My camera is on loan right now. I'll try and get you and vermontensium some clearer pictures when I get it back.
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 Posted 10/16/2009  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eddiespin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Stumbled on this going through My CCF. Better late than never, I guess. This is about the sharpest I can do with this camera, hope it helps. Threw in a comparison shot to a MSRD, too, just for the heck of it. Still don't know what could have caused these marks, though...

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 Posted 10/17/2009  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Appears to be damage from what I can see. Nothing doubled, just slightly disfigured.
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 Posted 10/20/2009  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eddiespin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop, I'm kinda stuck for theories on how it may have happened. Take a good look at it. In the first set of pics, I showed the date and mm, and that's pretty obviously the result of strike damage. Just that says this coin took a pretty good jolt when it was struck. Do I connect that "rocking and rolling" (if you will) to the second set of pics, to explain the "disfigurement," there? Or, rather, is that disfigurement post-mint damage (i.e., an event independent of the strike)? And, even then, supposing we're going to call that an independent post-mint event, what, possibly, could have caused it? Take a look at it, again. I'll take any theories, whatsoever, on that, at this stage, whether plausible or not...
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 Posted 10/20/2009  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Contact from even coins in the same bin can distort/damage one or both coins. Looks like my mother-in-laws car. Metal moved from contact with something else.
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 Posted 10/20/2009  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eddiespin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Richard, appreciate it.
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 Posted 10/21/2009  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes that's Machine Doubling Eddie
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 Posted 10/21/2009  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eddiespin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had just never seen MD make those kinds of marks, Tony. But, like I said, you look at that date and mm (first set of pics), and it's clear this coin took a real jolt. So, without more, I guess I'm kinda leaning that way. Thanks.
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