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Canadian Encased Cents Discussion Forum: Post Your Coins, Questions And Comments

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 Posted 11/04/2024  11:46 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all. I thought I would start a forum dedicated to one of my favourite areas of Canadian numismatics.

I will start this forum off with picture of a fun piece that is one of my favourites. Encased Coins were invented in 1901 for use at the Pan American Exposition. This is one of the earliest Canadian examples, also created in 1901. It was made by Thomas Clearihue, a glovemaker in Belleville, to commemorate the visit by the Duke and Duchess of York (later George V and Queen Mary). Note that quality control was not great with this issue as these two coins have the inserted coin flipped versus one another. In most issues, the coin is always oriented in the same direction and orientation.
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 Posted 11/04/2024  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Check 1960NYGiants's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 1960NYGiants to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have 39 different Encased Coins. Most have a Canadian coin within a Canadian encasement but 6 are US encasements with a Canadian coin. I'll take/post photos as I get to them. Here are my latest acquisitions:
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 Posted 11/04/2024  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Congrats on being the first poster! I am looking forward to seeing you coins...more from me tomrrow!
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 Posted 11/05/2024  07:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coins, Gene.
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 Posted 11/05/2024  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are a few from my collection. This is a group shot, as I did not want to put 14 pictures in a post. I am using the term " Encased Coin" somewhat loosely.


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The small enameled one says "One of the first silver coins made in Canada" 1908.
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Here is another fun one, as it is a Canadian issuer with an Indian Head cent while at the same time using the scarcer "Chamber Pot" design. Issuer is AL White from Greenwood BC.

The chamber pot design is often found issued from Niagara Falls. I copied a photo from an ebay listing for a Niagara Falls coin. Note it shares the same obverse die as the AL White coin.
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 Posted 11/05/2024  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your Carmichael coin is an interesting one. In that time frame, there were a number of Encased Coins issued by General Motors dealers on both sides of the border. Many had brass rings, which are generally quite scarce in the world of Encased Coins. I think brass looked good but was likely much harder to work with and get a good seal versus aluminum. A lot of Carmichael encased 10 cent coins are a bit loose. Carmichael also made an encased 1939 dollar, which is not seen too often.

Your 1908 piece is one of quite a few enamelled Encased Coins made in 1908. Yours was likely meant to be a brooch and has had its pin removed at some point. The rings come in many colours and shapes and feature different denominations. The 5 cent denomination is quite scarce....the vast majority are 1 cent coins. The 1908 enamelled coins alone can make for a very large collection. It is a bit surprising that there are so many. Enamelled coins were quite popular in England at about this time so I am guessing that someone tried to cash in on their popularity when the new mint opened.
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@Smallcentguy, the chamber pot one is quite interesting. My only chamber pot one is from the St. Louis world fair of 1904. I imagine that the Canadian issuer decided to use a US cent as we had no small cents then, and a custom made one for our large cents would have been an additional expense.

Yes, the back of the 1908 one has clear evidence that there was something soldered there, most likely a pin.

I have a few Encased Cents from countries other than Canada and the US, but not that many.
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Here are my 4 encased large cents:

1913 Calgary Alazhar Shriners
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1914 Edmonton Industrial Association
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1915 Calgary Alazhar Temple
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1916 Calgary Alazhar Temple
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 Posted 11/06/2024  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some very nice grade pieces there Gene!

This is another favourite. As far as I know the issuer is unknown. The best guess is Scarcee Club Calgary. Comes as 1915, 1916 and 1917.
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 Posted 11/08/2024  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Encased Cents come with varieties as well!

Note the coin at left has 18 pips around the edge on the reverse while the one at right has 14 pips. The obverse dies are the same. I imagine that one of the reverse dies broke part way through the production run. Since the dies "match" on the coin at left, I suspect it was the original die and the coin at right used a substitute reverse die.
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 Posted 11/14/2024  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just to kick it up....A new Niagara Falls coin not in the last photo. First catalogued of this date/die. (look up the post about Massey Harris Encased)
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 Posted 11/15/2024  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chadcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very cool. I see this one has major doubling on NIAGRA FALLS.
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