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1962 Proof Cent With Anomaly. Gouge? Clash? Hubbed In Debris?

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Added this odd little coin to a larger order. There is an interesting raised object below Lincoln's ear. The seller couldn't definitively classify the raised anomaly, but the speculation was die clash.

I see no other evidence of a clash on either coin face. To me, this resembles the hubbed in debris we discussed a couple weeks ago on a pair of 1964 proof nickels. It seems too knobby and asymmetrical to be a simple gouge. Anyone else have observations on what might have caused this anomaly? It is a porcupine to photograph because it's a proof, my little magnifier was overwhelmed with the glare, so I had to use a macro lens.

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Very interesting.
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Strange little bump. Besides a die gouge or a small chip what else could it be seeing it is raised? Looks like the die had some wear to it on the obverse so I could see it being a small die chip.
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Aren't proofs struck using brand new dies or something like that? If the bump is a chip or gouge, wouldn't that mean the coin was struck with a die that was "past its life", so to speak?
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I believe that proof dies in this era were repeatedly polished on the fields to make a clean, reflective surface. That process doesn't affect the devices, so they will accumulate minor die damage as the striking process continues.

If foreign matter were crushed into the die devices during the hubbing process, I imagine that would remain visible on all coins struck from that die.

It seems like a weird place for a chip, although I guess that imperfections in the die steel could cause them anywhere.
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Aren't proofs struck using brand new dies or something like that? If the bump is a chip or gouge, wouldn't that mean the coin was struck with a die that was "past its life", so to speak?
The something like that part is correct. Specially made dies for proofs and the coins are struck twice instead of the one time that business strikes coins get. The proof dies still get used up though. If you go to PCGS and look up proofs, you can find them with pretty extreme deterioration.
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