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Well said. At least the Mint is transparent in its thievery, unlike the rest of the government.
People who spend money on albums to collect this junk are exactly like those who put away sheets of stamps long ago. The face value won't change over the years, but the purchasing power will steadily decline and the objects themselves, mass-produced as they are, will never have a collector following. I take exception to this comment. I am one of those people who spend money on albums to collect this "junk." But I don't think of these coins as junk--I think of them as unique space fillers as I try to fill up all the holes in my folders. I know full well that 90% of my collection is never going to be worth anything above face value. But I don't collect coins as an investment. I collect for the thrill of the hunt and the goal of completing folders. I can also show friends my completed folders as well as the ones that are almost complete. It's a great way to strike up conversations. I dare say that most collectors collect coins for the same reasons. It's nice if the mint is able to produce some interesting, attractive designs. But even if they don't, I'm still going to buy albums and folders and look forward to checking my change the next time I buy something.
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12/06/2024 5:45 pm
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One factor that is overlooked is the secondary market for collectibles incorporating the variety of coins produced by the mint, such as these Coin Bears.  Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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I'll go one further and say they should have just kept that design as the new reverse and left it at that!  I'd have liked it even better if they went back to the original pre-1999 eagle, but the Crossing the Delaware reverse is a good compromise. Certainly better than the mess happening with the American Women Quarters, never mind the upcoming wreck of "sports played by youth", whatever the triangular heck that's supposed to mean. Quote:If someone wanted to get into the whole collector's idea of ever changing coins featuring something significant, the Innovation dollars are probably the way to go. I think the Presidential dollar coins were pretty cool as well, but America has never really cared much about the dollar coin as a whole it seems. Agree on both! But it looks like it was the Native American dollar that the new programs got patterned after, instead. I've seen a few people propose a county-themed program, and honestly I legitimately feel like it would be a better choice than the current mess. EDIT: Quote:
I know full well that 95% of my collection is never going to be worth anything above face value. As someone who collects primarily world coins, I know full well that 95% of my collection is never going to be worth much above scrap metal value, because it's demonetized so it doesn't even have a face value any more. US collectors have it so lucky with being able to find interesting coins in change. I did try to complete some sets... but when it comes to completing sets from circulation, there's surprisingly little gap between "boring, got all of them quickly" and "ugh, that's pretty much impossible", and I've never been one to buy expensive coins just to be able to fill holes in date or mint sets. (Even for type sets it's a stretch.)
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12/06/2024 1:28 pm
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Quote:@ACWhammy, how did you feel about the the Crossing the Delaware reverse? Personally I wish that design had spanned the gap between ATB and whatever is coming in 2026. I agree with what ratman said here: Quote:
I'll go one further and say they should have just kept that design as the new reverse and left it at that! Quote:
That said, I don't mind collecting the women quarters other than the annual Silver Proof Sets are just way too darn expensive, Yes, I'm going to stop at 2021 Silver Proof Set. Not even going to bother getting the Dime, Nickel, Dollar, and Penny from 2022 and beyond. Barely any silver in there. If anything I'll buy the Morgan/Peace Silver Proof set but will probably just stick to bullion from here on out. This has been an interesting conversation with lots of great responses. One factor I've started to figure in to my collecting experience is my own mortality. One year I won't be around to by the next Silver Proof Set anyway. As a collector it's easy to get caught up and have no stopping point in sight. So I've determined that I will need to have a stopping point for each of my various collections; and if I start a new one I will put in place boundaries and set parameters on exactly what my goal is.
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Do recall that WCTD was supposed to be the new permanent design. That was the law that created the ATBs.
Then Congress passed a new law, we get NWQ, 2026 SemiSesqui, and YS from 2027...
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I like the women quarters more than the national parks simply because national parks are just State Quarters but different. Either way I hope trump kills the sports quarters while he does the penny. |
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've seen a few people propose a county-themed program, and honestly I legitimately feel like it would be a better choice than the current mess. I remember a coin dealer joking that there was going to a county one-cent series. The coins would be free but the album would cost $3000! Since there are over 3000 counties in the USA, that could be a long-lasting series.
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Personally I like the American Women series. Just the fact each of the women don't represent a state/territory is enough for it to stand out from the State/ATB series, and likewise I genuinely enjoy the designs! (Jovita Idar's especially, even if I need a magnifying glass to make out the smaller text). If it were up to me, after the 2026 pause, I'd run the series for another four years in the place of the Youth Sport series.
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Jovita Idar's especially, even if I need a magnifying glass to make out the smaller text I am just giving an opinion and not being argumentative, but I thought them choosing this design did exactly opposite of honoring the person on the REV. I have heard several people online, and also my own family members, who saw one and right away said, Wow, that looks really weird. The other comments I have heard is how stupid it looks instead of just having a "normal" design. We can all have opinions in the case of "artistic" expression. But then I got to thinking, if this woman would have known someday she was to be honored by being put onto a US coin, I think she would have been happy. But if she had also been told the first impression people would have is how strange/off/dumb (terms I have seen/heard) the design looks instead of noticing her for what she was allegedly being honored for, then how would she feel? The other coins, you first notice the design elements and the woman's name. This one people wonder what in the world is going on until they look close enough to see the wording is her clothing. Then the obvious statement comes...why? When the design should be making people curious as to who she was and what she did. The comes the task of trying to figure out the words describing what the design is about inside the jumbled design of a dress they are in. I think she would ask why they just did not treat her like everyone else to emphasize who she was without needing to take the time to find a magnifying glass to figure it all out. Just my opinion.
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Either way I hope trump kills the sports quarters while he does the penny. He may have been able to get rid of the penny by telling the Treasury to stop minting them—the law says the Mint can make them, not they they must make them—but the sports quarter designs are now required by law. It looks like he has made no real effort to stop the penny and has deferred that to Congress, which appears to be making some effort. So they only thing he can do now is sign the legislation that makes these changes.
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Quote:Just like the RCM helped kill modern coin collecting by putting out an insane amount of designs every year Along with the ARP (alloy recovery program) makes it very difficult to start (or complete) a 'circulation coin' collection for any denomination without having to purchase them. (LCS, ebay etc..) For now, most of my collecting money is going into silver bullion. (SML) 
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