Modern Coins, What Constitutes A Variety? American Silver Eagle / ASE S And Modern Morgans

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Gilly Pillar of the Community United States 1213 Posts	Posted 01/16/2025 4:37 pm My thoughts were brought about when someone mentioned their head spinning when considering varieties in Silver Eagles. I would imagine that prior to last year, the only variety of the ASE was the 2008W Uncirculated rev of 2007. There were around 45000 of these made when a reverse die wasn't replaced at the beginning of production. I think it would be considered a die variety, but I'm no expert. So then I thought about last year's Star Privy release. Would/is a coin intentionally produced with an identifying mark (a privy mark) be considered a variety? This would also relate to any other coin with a privy such as the couple V75 proof Eagles from 2020, the 2020W V75 quarters, and the 2021P Morgan silver dollars with the CC and O mint mark privys. Works those all be considered varieties, it is there some other clarification for all these? Are the a special classification of variety? * Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. * Edited by Gilly 01/16/2025 10:09 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Seeker_101 Pillar of the Community United States 1791 Posts	Posted 01/16/2025 5:23 pm I'm no expert either but I believe they would be varieties, all be it intentional varieties unlike doubled dies which are unintentional varieties. Report this Post to the Staff
CelticKnot Bedrock of the Community United States 12806 Posts	Posted 01/16/2025 8:57 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Morgans Dad Pillar of the Community United States 5601 Posts	Posted 01/17/2025 03:23 am Where would the " T2 " ASE fit in..... Why does the Mint Not make mention of the Newer American Silver Eagle Reverse.. Variety or Type..... Report this Post to the Staff
Gilly Pillar of the Community United States 1213 Posts	Posted 01/17/2025 09:09 am I think it constitutes a redesign, so the answer is "design". Unless there's someone here who's a trained or expert numismatist, that's what I think you'd call it, a design change. And I think after a certain amount of years, the Mint can stop squawking about it. 2022 should have been the end of making a deal over it. PS the obverse was also redesigned. The same sculptor, but many elements changed, to reflect the original art. The addition of the initials are my only complaint. Should have been much smaller, like the VDB on modern cents. Tiny. Edited by Gilly 01/17/2025 09:12 am Report this Post to the Staff
Morgans Dad Pillar of the Community United States 5601 Posts	Posted 01/17/2025 10:45 am Modern American Coinages are seeing " Variety " Changes. 1932 The Washington quarter was introduced to Celebrate the 200th Birthdate of George, His Portrait, Was then facing Left. Since then His re-Enhanced portrait faces Right, Variety or Type....... As mentioned prior a Numismatist or avid collector Would/Should know the Difference, or is it a Nomenclature problem., That even us collectors are to blame..... The complaint You mentioned has been in My Topics of Concern for Many, Many years. The designers, The laser-infused art program of Moderns, Seems what Was a Very important topic, Designers initials are TOO BIG.... Why did an Upset public from Days gone Bye , 1909-VDB Lincoln Cent, Express their concerns back then so Loud, But Today's standards are Much More Lax, large and in your face initials. Great topic to see Others concerned Also...... Modern American Silver Eagles are a Very touchy topic, A person watching in the shadows Could easily be overwhelmed with Privy marks, Enhanced Reverse Proofs, Uncirculated, Proofs, Type 1 Reverse, Type 2. This is where the book, The American Silver Eagles, A guide to the U S Bullion Coin Program, by John M. Mercanti, Ex- Chief Engraver U S Mint retired, Fourth Edition comes in, Along with Experience Really Helps, .... When as Mentioned earlier, Why refer to the Type 2 ASE reverse, When the Obverse was Re-Enhanced Too.... Report this Post to the Staff
Morgans Dad Pillar of the Community United States 5601 Posts	Posted 01/17/2025 3:53 pm How about the KENNEDY Series Half Dollars. The 1964 Kennedy Proof Accented Hair Variety. The result of Jackie. O wanting JFK to have More Hair. The Modern Commemoratives Like the 2012, 2013, 2014 Limited Edition Silver Proof Sets Have ALL Accented Hair Versions of The Kennedy half's. The 2015 LESPS was Not produced, The 2016&2020 Sets I can Not locate Now, The 2017, 2018, 2019, , the 2021& 2022 the same No Accented Hair Kennedys. Why Would the Continued Series NOT use the Accented Hair Variety To Date !!! Report this Post to the Staff
Gilly Pillar of the Community United States 1213 Posts	Posted 01/17/2025 6:54 pm Quote: Since then His re-Enhanced portrait faces Right, Variety or Type....... It's a whole different design, so again I think "design" is the answer. The 1932 original design was Flannigan. Quote: The obverse (heads) shows a portrait of George Washington. But instead of the familiar left-facing image, Washington faces to the right. It was created by famous sculptor Laura Gardin Fraser for the 1932 quarter, but was never used. Report this Post to the Staff
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Modern Coins, What Constitutes A Variety? ASEs And Modern Morgans